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Ukraine Attacks Iranian Arms Shipments on the Caspian Sea (maritime-executive.com)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz
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With the US blockade on Iranian shipping and ports in force along the whole of the southern Iranian coastline, and the railway link to China through the border crossing point with Turkmenistan at Inche-Buren damaged, the route across the Caspian has become the only cargo route for heavy traffic which remains under Iranian sovereign control.

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[–] 13 points 3 months ago

Iran has been supplying Shahed drones to the Russian military since the start of the conflict. Ukraine told them to stop supplying Russia with the very weapons that enable Russia to strike their cities.

Ukraine didn't go out of their way to start attacking random ships or murder Iranian citizens, or even attack their infrastructure. They sank a ship carrying weapons that Russia was intended to use to hurt them. That's pretty justifiable.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Attacks on arms shipments to one of the parties in a war are clearly not war crimes. I get that you're committed to stanning the brutal, authoritarian theocracy that currently controls Iran because they're fighting countries you don't like, but don't be a moron.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Civilian deaths during military operations are not war crimes, per se, and the fact that civilians in this case were - as you previously acknowledged - delivering weapons to one of the belligerents means they're directly involved in supporting Russia's war effort.

    You can call it a disagreement if you want, but you're just wrong.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    When Iran began supplying drones to Russia a few years ago, they got involved in Ukraine's war, on Russia's side. This is just them suffering the consequences of that.

    Also, you seem to think Iran's position is much stronger than it really is. They've got their hands full with their current range of foes, they have no need to find more. They'll make some noises and threats, then do absolutely nothing at all.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    I'm sorry bud, but this is an absolutely ridiculous take.

    Russia has been using Iranian Shahed drones to conduct nearly all of their long range drone attacks. In return, Russia has been supplying Iran with Intelligence on the US.

    Ukraine didn't just randomly attack a cargo ship. They are effectively preventing Russia from acquiring weapons. Ukraine warned Iran to stop supporting Russia with drones and to not escalate their support. Iran didn't listen.

    This has everything to do with defense.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I wholeheartedly disagree with the US launching the Iran War but Ukraine more than any other country on earth has a direct reason to interdict/destroy Iranian supply shipments to russia.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What's Iran going to do to Ukraine that Russia can't/isn't? Talk about completely empty threats.

    And why are you so in love with an authoritarian theocracy?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Sorry, but I don't really understand the point you're trying to make.

    Do you think Iran actually poses any meaningful threat to Ukraine, especially given their current geopolitical situation? The US wrecked most of their Caspian Sea fleet a couple weeks ago, so this isn't even the biggest thing that happened around there this month. They seem like they already have a bunch much more urgent things to focus on than this little event, and probably don't need any more enemies.

    And, don't forget, Iran has been supplying weapons to Russia for years, which Russia has directly used to kill Ukrainian citizens. And they didn't start selling these weapons until the war had already started, so they can't claim to not know what they're being used for. This strike was a long time coming, and it's something Iran invited on itself.

    Or was your issue when I asked why are you so interested in defending the authoritarian theocracy that currently controls Iran?

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