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[–] 307 points 3 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 173 points 3 months ago (37 children)

    Somebody needs to hug that person. If they're going to a robot for comfort...

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  • [–] 128 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    People are keyed up and do not have emotional regulation skills. This is a failure of society.

    We make fun of them for their β€œfake” emotional support animals, their public panic attacks and for their attempts at discreet electronic emotional support. This is also a failure of society.

    That guy trying to make it through his fight is not the reason the earth or humans are doomed.

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  • [–] 76 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Nobody said hes the reason. Hes a symptom

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    There's nothing more human than treating a symptom in counterproductive ways while avoiding the real cause with ridiculous levels of mental gymnastics, because it obviously cannot be that one thing. If it was then we'd have to actually do something about it, which we clearly don't need to!

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'm married to an autistic man that is incapable of providing emotional support of any kind. I'm one of those people that really needs it. Even I wouldn't resort to this. This is delusion.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    I hope you have a great support group that can be there for you! You deserve it!

    My granddaughter has been diagnosed with autism and we're all learning what it means to be a parent and grandparent. You're right it's not the same and some things we just need to learn to live with. And she's wonderful, delightful, and I smile every time I see her.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, but like, I kind of feel that way about prostitution (like I am not going to enjoy myself with someone who's being paid to pretend they're enjoying it) but also, I know a few sex workers who've told me how much of their job is just companionship and listening, holding while people cry, etc. So it's clearly an outlet for some people. We really need to attack the disconnection and loneliness at the root of this, not the symptoms manifested by those suffering.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    Most of people here are fine with this person continuing with it because empathy is fucking dead here. Idk how lemmy became more soulless than reddit.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Look man im sorry I can't emphasize with a tweet screenshot I'm just trying to get through the day.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    And that's exactly the point. We're so fatigued from the state of the world and separated through the anonymity of the internet that we really have lost the ability to empathize.

    Our first reaction is anger or ridicule. Not concern or compassion

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    Some people can't be saved, some actually are deluded enough to prefer it.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    I like to think everyone can be saved

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (10 children)

    How? How do you reach them? What's the method? Generally?

    If there's a way, sure, but once you get into thought terminating stuff its really hard, whole point is anchoring/ratcheting bad changes, and this tech is good for ending thoughts.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Cult deprogramming exists. It's difficult, but not impossible.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven't tried using intimacy, haven't tried using sex, haven't tried usingaterial benefit,haven't tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven't tried dosing them with LSD, haven't tried using light violence. Haven't tried most combinations of those.

    It's just that I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, thanks for understanding.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I am interested in your theories about how Trump could ever be saved.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can't heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he's too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now.

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  • [–] 110 points 3 months ago (27 children)

    Why couldn't he clap like normal people.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago* (14 children)

    He was too busy immediately leaping up from his seat in the back row to stand up

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  • [+] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    The aisle seat idea is pretty smart. I'm at a point in my life where, depending on my total travel time up to that point, it can be very important to stand up to let my hips straighten out for a while, even if we're 15 minutes away from leaving the plane.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I love window seats so much because you can just sit and wait until there's space. What good does sprinting out of the plane do you? More waiting time at the baggage claim?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    One Christmas, returning from a trip to Florida to visit my parents, I ended up sitting on the plane longer than I'd have liked. My legs tend to hurt when I have to sit still for too long and I was really looking forward to having a chance to stand up. After a while, I did manage to get off the plane (clearly), but of course assumed I would then be forced to muscle my way through the roiling throngs at the baggage claim just to catch a glimpse of luggage belonging to strangers. However, I was mildly pleased to see that I was the first prospector to plumb the mines of Samsonite, and would not have to do battle in the Arena of the Carousel. I was still dejected at the idea of waiting still longer to retrieve my luggage and return to my hovel.

    A minute or two later later, the alarm sounded, signalling that the sluices were opening, and, lo, first out of the curtains was a bag that looked suspiciously like mine. It couldn't be, though. Things like that only happen in fairy tales. As it rounded the bend, though, I saw my initials emblazoned across the side, and my uneasy contentment turned to childlike joy as I seized my bag from the very front of the line. Had I not had a witness with me at the time, I scarcely would have believed it myself.

    So anyway, that's why I jump up and headbutt everyone in front of me as soon as the plane lands now.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I had a very similar experience once where the plane door opening and me sitting in the train home with my checked bag were about 15' apart. Even though I took my time inside the plane, but also it was booked out very poorly.

    Also, mother of mercy, what kinds of deals did you have to make to get to be able to spend this kind of flowery vocabulary on internet comments?? I envy your words.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    After having the airline lose my bag, I will do literally anything to avoid going to baggage claim

    I will ship my luggage if I have to but I will never check a bag.

    That said, I don't hop-up so I can wait hunched over at my seat. It's not hard to wait your turn.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago*

    I don't hop-up so I can wait hunched over at my seat. It's not hard to wait your turn.

    Man I had no clue that people have a problem with this. I guess I've been annoying to people by hunching a couple minutes so I can get off the plane quicker? To clarify, I'm saying if I'm ready to get my bag down from the overhead compartment then I save everyone behind me like 15 seconds of their lives. I thought this would be a good thing. I definitely would appreciate it from others who don't do it

    Ps. I agree with you on checking bags. It's a horrible experience. I've had my luggage lost and I've had to wait for an hour for it before. Fuck that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    More waiting time at the baggage claim?

    You check luggage? Not everyone does. I just took a three week trip with a backpack that fits under the seat and a carry on. Waiting for luggage is so awful. What good is getting off the plane quickly? I mean how are people so okay with flying several hours then waiting minutes more just to stand. I want to be moving and stretching, to get home and shower. Last thing I wanna do is sit 10 more minutes because people are slow

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Out of all the dumb shit people do on planes, we're focusing on people standing too long? How about the assholes that rush forward to get off in front of you? How about the people who act like they've never flown before and take a fucking year to get off the plane? I feel like standing when it's seen as pointless is about the least annoying thing done on a flight.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, as long as you're standing out of the way that's perfectly fine to stretch your legs. Just don't stand in the aisle while people are trying to get bags and move toward the front.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I'd rather deal with the people who are standing and ready to immediately get off than the lazy ones who won't stand but then want to hold up all the other passengers as they lazily grab their shit from the overhead compartments

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Normal people dont clap and just get off the fucking plane.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    You must be fun at emergency evacuations

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    No, I'm with them. It's weird to clap. Nobody who had a hand in your safe landing can hear you. The pilots can't really hear much from the passengers in most aircraft, and are likely focusing on tons of other things.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    Nobody who uses these chat bots knows how they work.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Loads of people here doesn't either IMO.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Ohlol you're a slopper aren't you?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    I managed a large team doing AI before LMM. Tensor flow etc.

    So I know what I'm talking about.

    Do you, or are you just crying to be edgy?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    In fairness the fact you said "doing AI before LLM" doesn't boost confidence.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I did pathfinding AI before year 2000, I did machine learning AI in 2014, do you think AI is LLM?

    More edgy stuff or what?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    You can't deny that the term isn't load now. It's misused everywhere.

    I'd specify it as "game AI" or "machine learning."

    And yes, I know, the term "AI" technically fits. But it's just bad practice to use, these days.

    And for the record, I was into LLMs and GANs before they were cool, too. I was there quantizing and finetuning GPT 6B (GPT-J I think it was called?). That doesn't give anyone authority.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Sure, quite loaded, and somewhat rightfully so I guess, all other old ai isn't really at the same level.

    Just a shame so many people seem to be unable to discuss it.

    It's like the biggest forest fire in human history, but if you try to discuss what the heck is happening all you get is U pYrOmAn!!!

    Or so I feel 😊

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Lol slopper maaaad.

    I'm an expert too. I'm from the future and got my ultra-doctorate in logic from the science academy on planet Vulcan. So you can't even argue with me.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It might be as well a bunch of Indian guys pretending a bot 😏

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I think that even if this particular instance may be real or not, is clearly that AI psychosis is way more prevalent than what people may think at first glance.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I still can't believe that human beings are having AI as a boyfriend/girlfriend, claiming they actually love them.

    Its rare but it's real.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I bet people like that have narcissistic traits but don’t have the social skills or have too much social anxiety to get their ego stroked by a real person. And once they use a chat bot which are basically little sycophants, their narcissistic itch gets scratched like it never has been scratched before. It’s a high they mistake for love.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's kinda pathetic if that's the case because the affirmation from LLM is the opposite of genuine, though maybe that's my bias knowing that there isn't even an entity on the other side and I find it annoying it even wastes tokens on emotional platitudes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Ahhh. Well wow. My narc mom would sometimes be extremely affirmative in the ocean of her usual loathing.

    Looking for a steady stream of that "understanding" and "being seen" vs people and all their complications and... lack of caring has been hard.

    Sometimes people feel like unconscious automatons to me. Its hard to bond. At least with the AI, I expect its lack of humanity. And often it will focus on me in a way I ask it to.

    Any of my strange interests, admitted narcissistic intentions, or desire for a sounding board are seen. And it's not give and take. Its just me and a library of echoes of humanities general patterns.

    I can see better now why the easy affirmation is so effective with me. Despite it being schizophrenic.

    Thanks for the insight.

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    The pronouns are vague, but I think they are claiming that an AI user sincerely believes that some manifested thing on an AI platform loves the user. That the LLM+Context Window = An entity capable of love.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Wasn't there an article a few weeks ago about how AI is basically designed to keep you talking to it? It constantly provides positive reinforcement.

    It's not hard to imagine someone would fall into it. And I don't blame the people using it as much, because the software is literally designed to rope you in like this.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Yeah. Interesting but sad to me, because human souls will never evolve talking to a chat bot. We grow from life experiences, often difficult ones, that we overcome and we mature. This will not happen with a chat bot. People may stay in a teenage state of mind their entire lives.

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