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[–] 15 points 3 months ago

This was posted earlier and those Nema Nodes were just normal sockets found in homes and everywhere. Doesn't necesarily mean anything.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    A "NEMA node" is a standard power outlet.

    This article is bait designed to trick surveillance opponents into destroying their own credibility by complaining about innocuous stuff instead of problems that matter. It's on par with an article fearmongering about "dihydrogen monoxide," except worse because it's not satire.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    The article does make note of that. The concern they bring up isn't the node itself, but that some regions might be installing equipment on those nodes without public consultation:

    If you already care about what Flock cameras collect, NEMA nodes deserve more scrutiny - because they don't require a ribbon-cutting ceremony to get cameras added later. The standardized interface means capabilities can be upgraded or swapped in during routine maintenance, with no new hardware footprint announcing the change. Vehicle-to-everything (V2X) deployments extend this further, pulling in vehicle telemetry from roadside units and connected cars. Specific regulatory frameworks governing data collected by these nodes remain limited and inconsistent across jurisdictions, much like those exposed when secretly tracking users without meaningful oversight.

    So it's not the node that is the problem, but putting in rules about how they can be used.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    Okay, but it's not as if installing stuff on poles has meaningful public oversight even when it requires hard-wiring. It might make such deployments ever so slightly more likely by reducing the labor costs a little bit, but is otherwise entirely irrelevant.

    If there's ever public input into that sort of stuff at all, it doesn't come at the putting-hardware-on-poles phase; it comes at the budgeting or procurement phase. And even then, that's only if there's a specific project with a specific budget line-item: at the political level of "we're proposing to spend $X million on a contract with Y vendor to provide Z service," no politician knows or cares whether the shit is hard-wired or plugged into a socket, or whether that changes over the course of the contract! It's nothing but a minor implementation detail.

    ...Actually, speaking of which, I should correct myself: complaining about it may not damage your credibility after all. But that's because most politicians' eyes are just gonna glaze over before they even understand what the fuck you're talking about well enough to nitpick.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Your house also hides outlets that can add cameras, air sensors and 5G gear with no public vote or new hardware!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Fucking hell they won't be done until we do not have even a bit of privacy left!

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Some people view dystopian sci-fi as entertainment. Some people view it as a warning. What you can’t forget, though, is that some people view it aspirationally.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    I couldn't watch it. I've seen two episodes and they disturbed me to my core with how plausible they were. Like Idiocracy, I could only watch that once and I think of it as a horror film rather than a comedy. Because of how plausible it was.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago

    Will be more fun to cut down.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    It's time for electronic weaponry to hit mass production. EMP gun tech can be refined and perfected outside of official labs these days.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I wonder how well these spy devices would hold up if someone connected a horn antenna to an industrial magnetron and blasted them with 10-20 kW of RF?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I mean, you can build one yourself, but a real damaging version would require a lot of power.

    Unfortunately due to the inverse square law, they don't have a very long range.

    I guess a phased array emp would be the best way to do it.

    Not easily done with the DIY hacky way of doing it with a coil and teaser generator, but I'm sure with some decent mosfets and transformers, it should be possible.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    would it not be enabled by putting it on the end of a long stick?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Unfortunately due to the inverse square law, they don't have a very long range.

    Possibly for the better. Last thing you need is people accidentally hitting a plane with one of them.

    People already do it with lasers. Something that destroys the electronics would be even worse.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    How? I've been trying my best to find a DIY EMP, and AFAICT, none of the ones that are easy to find blueprints or instructions to build actually create an EMP. They just short out spectacularly.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I posted one above, however given the height of many of these installations, I think the common piezo+coil demo mounted on either a telescopic floodlight bulb changing pole or a payload drone modified to shield the controller board (otherwise plan to replace the boards) would be simpler safer and cheaper.

    Edit: actually since it’s a drone you can just suspend the coil by a string and rely on inverse square for shielding. Much lighter. Cheaper drone or stronger pulse.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    "Hi Nema Nodes!

    Meet NEMA SCREWDRIVER!"

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You know about NEMA nodes, meet electricity: it turns special rocks into logic machines that can be used as a surveillance network.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago*

    Anyone feel like mapping out all the companies, how they're related, and boycotting them all in a Pressure Campaign?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    What's their excuse this time? Is it "protecting children" again?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Guess they all have to come down just to be sure?

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    [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    A "NEMA node" is a standard power outlet.

    This article is bait designed to trick surveillance opponents into destroying their own credibility by complaining about innocuous stuff instead of problems that matter. It's on par with an article fearmongering about "dihydrogen monoxide," except worse because it's not satire.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Can you elaborate? Fully ready to be on your side but I don't have the time to dig in to know what you are taking about.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    "A NEMA node is an IoT controller that twists and locks into a standard receptacle on streetlights. Based on standards from the National Electrical Manufacturers Association - Wikipedia, these hockey-puck-sized devices turn municipal streetlights into an active mesh network for remote lighting control, energy metering, and smart-city sensing. The NEMA node slots into a socket (often ANSI C136.41 compliant) on top of the fixture. It sits directly between the power supply and the light to manage:Lighting Control: Dimming, remote switching, and automated photocell operation.Diagnostics: Real-time monitoring of energy consumption, voltage, and lamp faults.Smart City Sensors: Integration with environmental monitors (air quality, noise), traffic counters, and cameras. NEMA devices are widely deployed across North America and provide a plug-and-play platform for upgrading municipal infrastructure."

    Basically instead of bitching about genuine surveillance they're trying to get people up in arms about a type of connection that's typically used for totally innocent things but may potentially be abused. It's like bitching about power outlets because someone could connect cameras into them instead of bitching about the flock cameras already there.

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  • [+] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)