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The traitors are inside the White House (lemmy.world)
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[–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Not defending it, but I think for them it means pride in their region/area/heritage. And it's not about anything deeper than that. It's like a college sports team for them. Like the rich white fan base for Duke, and UNC being just a couple miles away.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Personally I'd be ashamed of my regional heritage if the only thing that made it different was slavery..

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Looking at the south, there's not much else they can be proud of. Mississippi was god's mistake. Luckily its surrounded by other shithole states. It's like having warning signs before you enter a danger zone.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's quite a bit reductive. We have a lively history of activisim, resistance and rebellion along with the modern cultural influences and destination cities that people flock to far before the fly over states

    Half tongue-in-cheek.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    That is exactly why you see them at Klan rallies.

    Edit: Also in Canada in the province of Alberta they fly the Confederate flag. Lots of historical pride in Canada for Confederate losers. /s

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Of course the Klan also flies the US flag.

    Culturally in the rural south, a lot goes into convincing as many people as possible that the civil war had little to do with racism and instead it was about the elite northerners vaguely bossing the poor southerners around.

    As a consequence, they get that flag flown by a fair number of oblivious people that either worship some idealized vision of the antebellum south or just in general people saying "being a rebel is cool".

    Like Dukes of Hazard fans largely treated it as a symbol of generic righteous rebellion rather than referring to the core principles of the conflict that created the flag.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can be proud of your state/region/etc. without being specifically proud of traitor, enemy state... that lasted what ~4 years? People would rightly be upset if someone few an Al-Qaeda, or ISIS flag, or a Nazi flag, etc. The confederate flag, IMO, is no different. Someone can be from the countries these places operate(d) out of, without supporting, these groups.

    And to claim that ~4 years as heritage... that's a bit of a stretch. But also, problematic IMO. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heritage This to me, implies, these people are still actively trying to trade and own human lives.

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