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It’s 2025, Why Are We Still Getting Multiplayer Games Without Crossplay? (kotaku.com)
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[+] -8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

Everyone knows MKB will always destroy controller monkeys

seems the /s was needed.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In FPS yeah, but not really relevant for ReMatch and probably not for Elden Ring either.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You know that other genres exist besides shooters, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nah, OP definitely thinks Keyboard users would destroy controller users in Elden Ring PvP (they absolutely would not lol)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Well... I mean... It actually does give a huge benefit to menuing faster which is a huge deal in PvP. I play with a controller, but use the mouse to switch equipment mid battle instead of using the quick weapon slots and destroying my weight limit.

    People very much do bitch about players doing this, too lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because you can press buttons so much better on a controller

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Nothing to do with face buttons.

    The analog stick gives way greater control over positioning than the digital key inputs of a keyboard. You cant move at half walking speed on keyboard but you can with a controller, for example. You also get more than only the 8 cardinal directions of movement. If you want to move at a 133 degree angle from your current position, you can do that with the control stick on a controller, but on a keyboard you will have to move your camera slightly to compensate. That's two actions on a keyboard that you can achieve in one action on a controller.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Yes, let’s call other gamers monkeys based on platform of choice. Kneejerk reaction would be to call PC gamers the most toxic bunch but I know it’s just a loud basement dwelling minority thankfully.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    In FPSes, the aim assist is too overpowered in a ton of games because if they had to actually aim they'd never go positive. The only FPS players on controller I respect are Rainbow Six Siege console players. I even dare to say that a Silver R6S console player is better at aiming than a Crimson (highest rank) Call of Duty console player.

    Some people just don't realize how carried they are. No one should get an aimbot for free for choosing to play on a PS5.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’m glad I don’t play games to earn respect of others, what a miserable way to have fun.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm sorry, but explain to me how is it fair that certain platforms have a literal aimbot while some others don't? It's absurd this is even getting discussed.

    People that play with aim assist are cooking their brains exactly like students who use ChatGPT for everything and forget how to actually be creative. You don't learn muscle memory or how to aim properly on a controller when the game literally aims for you.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It sounds like you take more of an issue with existence of aim assist rather how it is balanced in particular games. Crossplay is beneficial because it increases the player pool, game longevity and (to the best of my knowledge) is usually optional, no? One would assume that aim assist is tuned to provide a fair challenge to users with different input devices and that in an actual competitive setting that wouldn’t be of any relevance anyway.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Well, sorta. I don't mind some sort of aim assist to bring parity between console and PC, but the way CoD does it is by making a bubble around an enemy character that will follow them no matter what direction you go to (this is basically rotational aim assist). IMO, aim assist should either only slow down the aim while it's over an enemy, or have a delay in the rotation to mimic the way a player without aim assist would naturally react to a change in direction.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    There's bad on both sides no doubt, but my experience has been 8/10 times the console player is the one talking about my mother or getting all excited to say the n word behind the anonymity of the internet. Could be just that there is a larger player base using consoles. Anyway, the toxicity you're referring to is a bias that has been built from individual experiences. Try a few rounds of vanilla Arma Reforger, there's a noticeable difference between thr console and PC players in that setting.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tell that to my PS5 K/D ratio. Never underestimate the power of aim assist lol

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    XDefiant felt dirty with crossplay on.

    A buddy of mine and I had problems playing against console players, the aim assist felt way too strong and I think there was mention of it somewhere.

    So we turned crossplay off and we had a much better time instead of getting stomped on.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The way it usually works out in the type of games I play (like Battlefield) is that console plays with aim assist get a slight advantage to things like medium range target acquisition and shooting on the move, whereas whereas long range gunplay like sniping favors MKB, and CQC actions like quickly turning up to 180 degrees in short range heavily favors MKB.

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