Alabaster_Mango comments on Just started a community for those who wish to move away from Lemmy

Just started a community for those who wish to move away from Lemmy (piefed.social)

submitted 1 year ago by TheSaltyPenguin@piefed.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Recently joined and started a community for people who want to move away from Lemmy and want to see Lemmy loosen its stranglehold on the threadiverse, if that seems like something interesting to you consider checking out !cancel_lemmy@piefed.social

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

People can always find problems if they look hard enough, lol. There are probably some legitimate complaints about Lemmy, but nothing is perfect. I find their messaging weird though. Like, you can be pro Piefed without having to be anti Lemmy. Seems needlessly combative to me.

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The problems with the Lemmy developers though is plain on the face of it. Problematic political and social positions. And then demanding that donations must go towards furthering those problematic political and social positions. Because they think they found this one weird trick that nobody can argue with. Their Flagship server is the political server. It's not lemmy.org after all.

Not to mention that the admins of the server moderate more than most the moderators on the server. There is no free speech. It doesn't matter how moderate or respectful you are. If you go against the narrative you will be banned.

Development wise they are also vanguard minded. Does the userbase want features the devs aren't working on? That's too bad. The devs are going to work on what they want to work on. Whether or not that's a good thing. Which can sometimes it can be. It also has led to a number of people reluctant to contribute. The childish cliquesh behavior.

You're not always going to agree with the politics and views of the people who write the software you use. And that is okay. But when they mix the two it's not wrong to have issues with that.

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[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I think you nailed it. For me personally, if I move to PieFed, it's not because I want to "hurt" the devs, it's because I really don't want to be part of what they stand for.

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That and it speaks to a lack of maturity and professionalism which doesn't inspire confidence in the project.

There's no need to hurt the devs for sure though. They do that well enough on their own.

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[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I keep forgetting about the dev issues, lol. Deffo legitimate problems one might have with a software for sure. I don't run into that a lot over here on Lemmy.ca though, which is nice.

I stand by my assessment though. It's still weird to me to promote one thing by shooting down another. Feels too much like politics in North America to me. They could have made a "Support Piefed" community instead.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree, this whole idea of canceling Lemmy is weird and just feels reactionary. Also Piefed running on Python doesn't seem like something that can scale well nor something that can be perpetually worked on for the long haul without running into issues with new python releases and compatibility with them.

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[+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

Instagram and threads (and parts of the clusterfuck that is facebook) are written in python and seem to have scaled fine.

How much of them? Parts being made in python isn't the same as your whole backend being written in 90% or nothing but python. But I guess we'll see.

If a new python release breaks compatibility, Piefed can keep using the old version of python.

Technically yes, though I wonder how long that would last if the next jump is anything like the last. I can already imagine the people bitching about "SeCUriTy" just like many were when people talked about maintaining backwards compatibility or keeping python2 support in the days of the transition to python3.