▲ 501 ▼ The Debian project is proud to release Debian 13 "Trixie", a major update that brings new features, updated components, and numerous other improvements (www.debian.org) submitted 1 year ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 73 comments fedilink hide all child comments Switching from Microsoft Windows to Linux is one of the best decision I ever made. Thank you to the thousands of Debian volunteers. You are amazing people ❤️
[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (19 children) Sorry, but 403GB? That’s a lot of space for an OS, isn’t it? permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] pelya@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (8 children) 10 GB storage for default installation, 4 GB storage for commandline-only installation, 403 GB storage if you install every Debian package under the sun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 year ago (5 children) I doubt it's possible to have them all installed and have a functioning system anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Don't knock it 'til you try it! sudo apt install * -y permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bonus points is you run a fork bomb in parallel and see how far you get. Throw an egg on your heat sink for fun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Do this with a Pentium D computer for optimal scrambled egg result permalink fedilink source parent [–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* There are some packages that aren't compatible, that are alternatives that do the same thing, so apt won't let you install them at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepi@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago MrBeast should try this permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago Ahhhhh, ok. Wild… I think I might try to get my OS that big one day just for kicks permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quik@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Which you can't even to because of conflicts/architecture availability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) That's how much space the whole of Debian takes up. Every package for every supported architecture. Not sure if it includes the space taken by the installation ISOs too. A bare minimum installation of Debian (meaning just command-line with a minimal number of programs) is probably around 1GB or so? They recommend at least 4GB space for a server install and 10GB for a desktop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] morto@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I find it a surprisingly low value. I can store all the current debian packages in my storage media at home, that's crazy! FOSS really tends to be lean and efficient. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How do you mean low value? I definitely see value in being able to have every package available offline in certain settings. Maybe you got a cabin with a sick (single player) gaming setup but no internet (I dunno I’m spitballin’) and you want to do some updates. Pack up a drive with everything possible and make it happen! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kirca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I think they meant low value as in low number, said in a positive way (16gb being a lower number than expected rather than a comment on the quality of it) at least that's how I read it permalink fedilink source parent [–] morto@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I mean low value as in a low number. Sorry for the confusion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I just looked, 11G on my laptop's / Standard productivity stuff, I think the only extra thing is a flatpack of google earth which is 1.5G permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Yeah and I know one of my laptops only has a 250GB drive. I thought it was a typo at first, but it was explained. I get it now :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago That threw me for a second too. I thought “that’s a bit of a leap”. Like others said, it’s everything, not just the recommended packages. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stefenauris@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh! That's if you installed every piece of software they support! A regular installation is quite modestly sized, and install media is DVD sized. I can see where that would be confusing though hehe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Yeah no doubt no doubt. I thought it was maybe a typo or something and was supposed to be 4.3, like someone hit 0 on the numpad :D It makes sense now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pelya@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (8 children) 10 GB storage for default installation, 4 GB storage for commandline-only installation, 403 GB storage if you install every Debian package under the sun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 year ago (5 children) I doubt it's possible to have them all installed and have a functioning system anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Don't knock it 'til you try it! sudo apt install * -y permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bonus points is you run a fork bomb in parallel and see how far you get. Throw an egg on your heat sink for fun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Do this with a Pentium D computer for optimal scrambled egg result permalink fedilink source parent [–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* There are some packages that aren't compatible, that are alternatives that do the same thing, so apt won't let you install them at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepi@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago MrBeast should try this permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago Ahhhhh, ok. Wild… I think I might try to get my OS that big one day just for kicks permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quik@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Which you can't even to because of conflicts/architecture availability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 year ago (5 children) I doubt it's possible to have them all installed and have a functioning system anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Don't knock it 'til you try it! sudo apt install * -y permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bonus points is you run a fork bomb in parallel and see how far you get. Throw an egg on your heat sink for fun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Do this with a Pentium D computer for optimal scrambled egg result permalink fedilink source parent [–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* There are some packages that aren't compatible, that are alternatives that do the same thing, so apt won't let you install them at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepi@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago MrBeast should try this permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Don't knock it 'til you try it! sudo apt install * -y permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bonus points is you run a fork bomb in parallel and see how far you get. Throw an egg on your heat sink for fun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Do this with a Pentium D computer for optimal scrambled egg result permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bonus points is you run a fork bomb in parallel and see how far you get. Throw an egg on your heat sink for fun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Do this with a Pentium D computer for optimal scrambled egg result permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Do this with a Pentium D computer for optimal scrambled egg result permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* There are some packages that aren't compatible, that are alternatives that do the same thing, so apt won't let you install them at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago Ahhhhh, ok. Wild… I think I might try to get my OS that big one day just for kicks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quik@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Which you can't even to because of conflicts/architecture availability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) That's how much space the whole of Debian takes up. Every package for every supported architecture. Not sure if it includes the space taken by the installation ISOs too. A bare minimum installation of Debian (meaning just command-line with a minimal number of programs) is probably around 1GB or so? They recommend at least 4GB space for a server install and 10GB for a desktop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] morto@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I find it a surprisingly low value. I can store all the current debian packages in my storage media at home, that's crazy! FOSS really tends to be lean and efficient. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How do you mean low value? I definitely see value in being able to have every package available offline in certain settings. Maybe you got a cabin with a sick (single player) gaming setup but no internet (I dunno I’m spitballin’) and you want to do some updates. Pack up a drive with everything possible and make it happen! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kirca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I think they meant low value as in low number, said in a positive way (16gb being a lower number than expected rather than a comment on the quality of it) at least that's how I read it permalink fedilink source parent [–] morto@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I mean low value as in a low number. Sorry for the confusion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morto@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I find it a surprisingly low value. I can store all the current debian packages in my storage media at home, that's crazy! FOSS really tends to be lean and efficient. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How do you mean low value? I definitely see value in being able to have every package available offline in certain settings. Maybe you got a cabin with a sick (single player) gaming setup but no internet (I dunno I’m spitballin’) and you want to do some updates. Pack up a drive with everything possible and make it happen! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kirca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I think they meant low value as in low number, said in a positive way (16gb being a lower number than expected rather than a comment on the quality of it) at least that's how I read it permalink fedilink source parent [–] morto@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I mean low value as in a low number. Sorry for the confusion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How do you mean low value? I definitely see value in being able to have every package available offline in certain settings. Maybe you got a cabin with a sick (single player) gaming setup but no internet (I dunno I’m spitballin’) and you want to do some updates. Pack up a drive with everything possible and make it happen! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kirca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I think they meant low value as in low number, said in a positive way (16gb being a lower number than expected rather than a comment on the quality of it) at least that's how I read it permalink fedilink source parent [–] morto@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I mean low value as in a low number. Sorry for the confusion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kirca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I think they meant low value as in low number, said in a positive way (16gb being a lower number than expected rather than a comment on the quality of it) at least that's how I read it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morto@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I mean low value as in a low number. Sorry for the confusion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I just looked, 11G on my laptop's / Standard productivity stuff, I think the only extra thing is a flatpack of google earth which is 1.5G permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Yeah and I know one of my laptops only has a 250GB drive. I thought it was a typo at first, but it was explained. I get it now :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Yeah and I know one of my laptops only has a 250GB drive. I thought it was a typo at first, but it was explained. I get it now :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago That threw me for a second too. I thought “that’s a bit of a leap”. Like others said, it’s everything, not just the recommended packages. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh! That's if you installed every piece of software they support! A regular installation is quite modestly sized, and install media is DVD sized. I can see where that would be confusing though hehe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Yeah no doubt no doubt. I thought it was maybe a typo or something and was supposed to be 4.3, like someone hit 0 on the numpad :D It makes sense now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Yeah no doubt no doubt. I thought it was maybe a typo or something and was supposed to be 4.3, like someone hit 0 on the numpad :D It makes sense now permalink fedilink source parent