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[+] -18 points 1 year ago (25 children)
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Do you believe that 100% of people, out of millions, will not be violent while they can see what is happening with this government?

    Do you believe the government will not resort to agent provacuteurs to get the outcome they desire?

    I think you're correct that the government wants to declare martial law, but I also believe that some violent act will occur somewhere, and it will be used against the people.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Protests need to pose a threat of something greater than people shouting to cause a real conundrum for those in power.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And that something greater isn't violence, because any dictatorship would be happy to wipe your ass with violence that no civil protest can match, and the whole world would refuse their support too once the protest becomes violent. We've seen it too many times. I know this is new for Americans, and honestly, it's kind of fun reading and seeing all that. It's like watching a child make its first mistakes. However, there are many people and nations who have gone through this, you should at least study their experiences.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    So let me get this straight, you're worried about giving the fascists who have shown zero compunction about lying and making shit up at literally every turn a justification for being fascists? They've been spinning non-issues into crises and fabricating bullshit whole-cloth the entire time, why do you imagine they care whether their reasons are legitimate or not? Do you think they would just stop being fascists if everybody was super chill? Someone else refuted that idea far more eloquently than I can::

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    Peaceful protesting can work especially if you have 3.5% of the population consistently protesting.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

    But violence also works. People have died to make 40 hour work weeks, minimum wage, child labor laws, health laws of all kinds. The LA riots of the 90s were a net gain for the city.

    Violence isn't always the answer, but it's an effective one when other avenues don't work.

    ETA: billionaires will never let you vote away their power.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Let's put it another way...

    So-called "peaceful" protesting (which is never actually peaceful because it's the repressive arms of the state that decides whether they are "peaceful" or not) will only work if it is backed up by a credible prospect of extremely non-peaceful revolution.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I'll meet you at the front line, but I'd like to see you there first. Oh wait, are we still cosplaying?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    A liberal? On the front lines?

    Now that would be something to see.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I can count on your comfortable endless preaching from behind the keyboard, that's for sure :'(

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do tell, liberal - do you even know what CS gas smell like?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Aren't they trying to declare martial law right now anyway?

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