▲ 543 ▼ 'Whites-only' community banning Black, Jewish and gay people set up in Arkansas (www.thepinknews.com) submitted 1 year ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca 220 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (8 children) Right but what does that have to do with what I said permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children) you mentioned it would be bold for a Black-only community to try to exist IRL, and that's accurate - those communities even when just majority Black without exclusion policies have historically been oppressed and met with physical violence... Same with indigenous communities and so on, turns out white settler-colonial culture is intolerant and violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (6 children) No I mentioned it would be bold to try to excuse the racism with the mentioned stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) ah, didn't realize you meant "racism" as meaning anti-white. To be honest I do think the relevant aspect of what makes something racist is the direction of the flow of power. When a marginalized group is persecuted or oppressed by a dominant group, it's the oppression and power difference that is relevant even more than the narrow sense in which group categories are used to make decisions. This is why affirmative action is not racist, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Oof, called this in my first comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) yes, I'm somewhat reiterating a view you were originally criticizing - though I'm doing that because you pointed it out, not sure a "yes, actually" is really a "called it" moment, but sure - let's go with that anyway, it's almost Friday 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Racism is racism, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children) you mentioned it would be bold for a Black-only community to try to exist IRL, and that's accurate - those communities even when just majority Black without exclusion policies have historically been oppressed and met with physical violence... Same with indigenous communities and so on, turns out white settler-colonial culture is intolerant and violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (6 children) No I mentioned it would be bold to try to excuse the racism with the mentioned stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) ah, didn't realize you meant "racism" as meaning anti-white. To be honest I do think the relevant aspect of what makes something racist is the direction of the flow of power. When a marginalized group is persecuted or oppressed by a dominant group, it's the oppression and power difference that is relevant even more than the narrow sense in which group categories are used to make decisions. This is why affirmative action is not racist, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Oof, called this in my first comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) yes, I'm somewhat reiterating a view you were originally criticizing - though I'm doing that because you pointed it out, not sure a "yes, actually" is really a "called it" moment, but sure - let's go with that anyway, it's almost Friday 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Racism is racism, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (6 children) No I mentioned it would be bold to try to excuse the racism with the mentioned stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) ah, didn't realize you meant "racism" as meaning anti-white. To be honest I do think the relevant aspect of what makes something racist is the direction of the flow of power. When a marginalized group is persecuted or oppressed by a dominant group, it's the oppression and power difference that is relevant even more than the narrow sense in which group categories are used to make decisions. This is why affirmative action is not racist, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Oof, called this in my first comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) yes, I'm somewhat reiterating a view you were originally criticizing - though I'm doing that because you pointed it out, not sure a "yes, actually" is really a "called it" moment, but sure - let's go with that anyway, it's almost Friday 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Racism is racism, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) ah, didn't realize you meant "racism" as meaning anti-white. To be honest I do think the relevant aspect of what makes something racist is the direction of the flow of power. When a marginalized group is persecuted or oppressed by a dominant group, it's the oppression and power difference that is relevant even more than the narrow sense in which group categories are used to make decisions. This is why affirmative action is not racist, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Oof, called this in my first comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) yes, I'm somewhat reiterating a view you were originally criticizing - though I'm doing that because you pointed it out, not sure a "yes, actually" is really a "called it" moment, but sure - let's go with that anyway, it's almost Friday 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Racism is racism, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Oof, called this in my first comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) yes, I'm somewhat reiterating a view you were originally criticizing - though I'm doing that because you pointed it out, not sure a "yes, actually" is really a "called it" moment, but sure - let's go with that anyway, it's almost Friday 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Racism is racism, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) yes, I'm somewhat reiterating a view you were originally criticizing - though I'm doing that because you pointed it out, not sure a "yes, actually" is really a "called it" moment, but sure - let's go with that anyway, it's almost Friday 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Racism is racism, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Racism is racism, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you think affirmative action is racist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago The article itself mentions "positive discrimination" and "reverse racism" but the overall thing is a poor comparison since the community in this case would be "no whites" which would absolutely be racist since it's excluding people because of their race. permalink fedilink source parent