▲ 86 ▼ Liberals parroting liberal media: Churchill was a hero! (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by jackeroni@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 70 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] npdean@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) Ah so thats your basis for responsibility, not action, but circumstances. What if that British newborn was born to Indian parents? are they now both responsible and a victim of their own doing? I didn't see anyone rejecting the spoils of plunder There are plenty here who agree with you, unfortunately they're too busy trying to survive the same persecutions you're angry at them for supposedly perpetrating. The working class in the UK have absolutely no say in any of what you're campaigning about; but your narrative of "fuck British people because they were born British" does nothing but alienate them from your cause. It becomes a case of "damned if I do, damned if I don't" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] npdean@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] javiwhite@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago I can't speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit). I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we're seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the "fuck you I got mine" mentality). I suppose you could argue it's due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn't based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates 'us and them' mentalities, and I believe it's by design. Until the world wakes up and realises it's not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) Ah so thats your basis for responsibility, not action, but circumstances. What if that British newborn was born to Indian parents? are they now both responsible and a victim of their own doing? I didn't see anyone rejecting the spoils of plunder There are plenty here who agree with you, unfortunately they're too busy trying to survive the same persecutions you're angry at them for supposedly perpetrating. The working class in the UK have absolutely no say in any of what you're campaigning about; but your narrative of "fuck British people because they were born British" does nothing but alienate them from your cause. It becomes a case of "damned if I do, damned if I don't" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] npdean@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] javiwhite@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago I can't speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit). I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we're seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the "fuck you I got mine" mentality). I suppose you could argue it's due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn't based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates 'us and them' mentalities, and I believe it's by design. Until the world wakes up and realises it's not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] npdean@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] javiwhite@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago I can't speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit). I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we're seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the "fuck you I got mine" mentality). I suppose you could argue it's due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn't based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates 'us and them' mentalities, and I believe it's by design. Until the world wakes up and realises it's not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago I can't speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit). I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we're seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the "fuck you I got mine" mentality). I suppose you could argue it's due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn't based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates 'us and them' mentalities, and I believe it's by design. Until the world wakes up and realises it's not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change. permalink fedilink source parent