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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

thinner phone requires a smaller battery. Smaller battery is smaller capacity.

Yes, smaller batteries of the same type generally have lower capacity. Very good. That's not what we were talking about though is it? YOU said that having a non-replaceable battery allowed them to make phones thinner. That is what they had the ability to do for the decade that they were still making phones with replaceable batteries.

Noone asked for phones to copy the iphone

Peter Noone, from Hermans Hermits? Fun trivia. You know who else asked for it, everyone else.

So close to getting it…

Oh, you think you are close to getting it? Well maybe I can help you the rest of the way. If School Text Book manufacturers who were forced to come up with a dumber version of their product to fit the requirements of one large market found it was cheaper just to sell everyone the dumb version instead of making two different versions, it follows that Phone Manufacturers would likewise find it cheaper to sell the dumber version of phones to everyone if one large market required them to make phones dumber. Do you get it now? I can try to dumb it down even more for you if you need me to.

Show one new model that is the same size of a 1990 ford ranger.

The still sell Ford Rangers I'm pretty sure. I'm going to let you do your own Truck shopping.

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[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

I said smaller battery and connecters allowed for thinner phones.

And mass production is cheaper than low production. So if all phones are designed the same, then the factories can be tooled all the same accross all models.

People actually did like the form factor and function of iPhones, false equivalency much?

So why are you confused manufacturers are copying Apple?

I'm not going to do your Truck shopping for you. If you can't figure that out on your own, ask your parents.

But you said they exist... it should be easy. Unless... you were talking out of your ass again.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I said smaller battery and connecters allowed for thinner phones.

Just making the batteries non replaceable makes them able to be thinner, and they always had that ability. They also had the ability to put in smaller batteries if everyone was clamoring for super thin phones. They just weren't.

And mass production is cheaper than low production.

True

So if all phones are designed the same, then the factories can be tooled all the same accross all models.

Uh, no. That would only be true if all models of phone from the same factory were made exactly the same way with the exact same machines. That's not the case. They make different models of phone. They could easily make one model with a user replaceable battery and a different model without one.

But you said they exist… it should be easy. Unless… you were talking out of your ass again.

They do exist, and it was super easy. They still make Ford Rangers. Try google, it's the first thing that pops up when you type in New Ford Ranger. I guess you were talking out your ass again.

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[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

The new ranger is just a tiny bit smaller than the f150 It absolutely is not the same or even close to the size of ranger 20 years ago.

The closest in size "truck" to the old ranger is the maverick... but thats a unibody UTE, hardly comparable.

Uh, no. That would only be true if all models of phone from the same factory were made exactly the same way with the exact same machines. That's not the case. They make different models of phone. They could easily make one model with a user replaceable battery and a different model without one.

Sure... if there was enough demand for replaceable batteries... but there is not. Basically the vast market is content with the cheaper option.

That's a BINGO! So if that's true, then they absolutely had the ability to do that for the first decade of smart phones.

Again... smaller battery smaller capacity... a battery of the same physical size 15 years ago was much less enegry dense.

Its ok. You can be wrong. Just learn from the experience.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

The new ranger is just a tiny bit smaller than the f150 It absolutely is not the same or even close to the size of ranger 20 years ago.

You said you couldn't buy a small truck, not that you couldn't buy a truck the same size as 20 years ago.

Sure… if there was enough demand for replaceable batteries… but there is not. Basically the vast market is content with the cheaper option.

There was a demand, we weren't given a choice. I'm not sure how this so hard for you to grasp.

Again… smaller battery smaller capacity…

Again...Just making the batteries non replaceable makes them able to be thinner, and they always had that ability. They also had the ability to put in smaller batteries if everyone was clamoring for super thin phones. They just weren’t.

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[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

You said you couldn't buy a small truck, not that you couldn't buy a truck the same size as 20 years ago.

A. I clarified to find me one of the same size as a 1990 model.

B. Isnt this exactly the same argument your making? There is huge demand for small trucks, the ranger was a top seller when it was discontinued. And when it was brought back, its a slightly smaller version of the f150, and nothing what people want.

They also had the ability to put in smaller batteries if everyone was clamoring for super thin phones. They just weren’t.

You really are that dense. The battery tech was not there to allow thinner phones without compromising capacity. The strongest market desirablity is battery life. But people also want smaller phones. Hell, futurama made this joke in 2001

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

A. I clarified to find me one of the same size as a 1990 model.

Good for you.

B. Isnt this exactly the same argument your making?

No, you don't carry Ford Rangers around in your pocket all the time making them easy vectors to spy on people.

The bagtery tech was not there to allow thinner phones without comprismising capacity.

And if people really gave a fuck about thinner phones they would have accepted smaller "bagtery's" to get them. Clearly capacity was more important. So I guess people weren't chomping at the bit to get thinner phones now were they?