St. Patrick's Day parade cancled in florida because of anti-inclusivity law (DEI)

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[–] -2 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

Genova is in modern day Italy, so if he really was Genovese then yeah, he was Italian.

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  • [–] 10 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

    Italy is a modern invention, like 20th century modern. That's be like telling a Prussian that they're just German minus a hundred years. Early colonist's considered themselves British, would you argue that they were actually American?

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  • [–] 6 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

    TIL my ancestors weren't Polish, they were Ukrainian. Or maybe they were both or neither, as neither country existed when they emigrated. They spoke Polish but emigrated from Galicia. /s

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    I can't remember the exact historic context*, but the joke goes that Old Sol liked to boast that he'd been born in Poland, then became Austrian, then German, and ended up a citizen of the soviet Union, all without ever leaving his hometown.

    *yes, I'm an ignorant american.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Yes, but as in 19th century modern. The war of unification (when the Savoy's conquered Italy and Sicily out of Piemonte) was happening in the 1880s.

    I'm honestly puzzled why you care so much about what a region was called when the person lived there, vs what we call it today. There are nuances but nothing to get so worked up about.

    I'd much rather point out that it's not at all clear that he was Genovese at all. And that "Columbus's House" in Genova is an absolute scam.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    Because context matters. Why don’t you care about the distinction that Italy wasn’t actually Italy in Columbus’ time but a collection of city states, republics, and kingdoms? Columbus shopped his idea around until he found buyers for his plans. We have to be skeptical of the canned history we’re fed, it always leaves important details out. We’re not 6 years old anymore and learning about George Washigton cutting down the Cherry Tree, we’re grown up and should know the story is bullshit.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 hours ago

    TBH, I've never heard about Washington and a cherry tree. That sounds like one of those myths that Americans tell themselves.

    Of course I care that the region that I live in wasn't unified with Liguria to the south until the 19th century. But you're being very well akshully about it. It's not a distinction that matters in most contexts.

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