▲ 1024 ▼ Vivaldi CEO explains his anti-AI stance: most users don’t want AI in the browser (cybernews.com) submitted 23 hours ago by Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/technology@lemmy.world 202 comments fedilink hide all child comments Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 16 hours ago* (12 children) Vivaldi is a proprietary Chromium reskin. Use Librewolf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago (11 children) Librawolf is simply firefox and I do, but there are things that need chrome. I need both of them for certain things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children) IMO Librewolf ain’t simply Firefox, and I don’t think folks would say this if they gave Librewolf a chance. A lot of the corporate cruft/AI-adjacent stuff is removed, it’s not just a reskin with adblock. It’s a holistically better browser experience. Edit: removed unintentional double negative permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago I'm running Libre, it's my main, but can't use my webflashers, the support in google meet, sound and screen sharing is crap. It's not a simple thing that I like chrome. A great deal of crap i need for work demands it. And then I end up on Brave because I'm running a bunch of Manifest V2 plugins. Also, firefox can't seem to get anti-fingerprinting right. Noone wants to be ready to lie and randomize data but brave. I simply want to stop using brave as my second browser, I don't even want it installed, but I'm stuck with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 hours ago Funny you say that because some sites just don't work in librewolf, which is because it is protecting you, but still adds to friction. permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago (5 children) For things that specifically need a Chromium-based browser, like WebUSB, I use ungoogled-chromium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (4 children) Ungoogle-chromium still has manifestV2? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 hours ago (3 children) No. Ungoogled-chromium is literally just Chromium with the Google shit stripped out. If you want manifest v2, use something based on Firefox, like Librewolf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children) yeah already main Libre, but that does nothing for me when I need webUSB webSerial or to use google meet sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) I just keep two browsers around for different purposes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] skaffi@infosec.pub -1 points 14 hours ago (1 child) I think you'll find what you need in either Brave or Helium, or both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago Brave does what I need. I just really fucking hate those people. Last time I tried Helium i had to abandon, but fuck if I can remember why. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago (11 children) Librawolf is simply firefox and I do, but there are things that need chrome. I need both of them for certain things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children) IMO Librewolf ain’t simply Firefox, and I don’t think folks would say this if they gave Librewolf a chance. A lot of the corporate cruft/AI-adjacent stuff is removed, it’s not just a reskin with adblock. It’s a holistically better browser experience. Edit: removed unintentional double negative permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago I'm running Libre, it's my main, but can't use my webflashers, the support in google meet, sound and screen sharing is crap. It's not a simple thing that I like chrome. A great deal of crap i need for work demands it. And then I end up on Brave because I'm running a bunch of Manifest V2 plugins. Also, firefox can't seem to get anti-fingerprinting right. Noone wants to be ready to lie and randomize data but brave. I simply want to stop using brave as my second browser, I don't even want it installed, but I'm stuck with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 hours ago Funny you say that because some sites just don't work in librewolf, which is because it is protecting you, but still adds to friction. permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago (5 children) For things that specifically need a Chromium-based browser, like WebUSB, I use ungoogled-chromium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (4 children) Ungoogle-chromium still has manifestV2? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 hours ago (3 children) No. Ungoogled-chromium is literally just Chromium with the Google shit stripped out. If you want manifest v2, use something based on Firefox, like Librewolf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children) yeah already main Libre, but that does nothing for me when I need webUSB webSerial or to use google meet sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) I just keep two browsers around for different purposes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] skaffi@infosec.pub -1 points 14 hours ago (1 child) I think you'll find what you need in either Brave or Helium, or both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago Brave does what I need. I just really fucking hate those people. Last time I tried Helium i had to abandon, but fuck if I can remember why. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children) IMO Librewolf ain’t simply Firefox, and I don’t think folks would say this if they gave Librewolf a chance. A lot of the corporate cruft/AI-adjacent stuff is removed, it’s not just a reskin with adblock. It’s a holistically better browser experience. Edit: removed unintentional double negative permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago I'm running Libre, it's my main, but can't use my webflashers, the support in google meet, sound and screen sharing is crap. It's not a simple thing that I like chrome. A great deal of crap i need for work demands it. And then I end up on Brave because I'm running a bunch of Manifest V2 plugins. Also, firefox can't seem to get anti-fingerprinting right. Noone wants to be ready to lie and randomize data but brave. I simply want to stop using brave as my second browser, I don't even want it installed, but I'm stuck with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 hours ago Funny you say that because some sites just don't work in librewolf, which is because it is protecting you, but still adds to friction. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago I'm running Libre, it's my main, but can't use my webflashers, the support in google meet, sound and screen sharing is crap. It's not a simple thing that I like chrome. A great deal of crap i need for work demands it. And then I end up on Brave because I'm running a bunch of Manifest V2 plugins. Also, firefox can't seem to get anti-fingerprinting right. Noone wants to be ready to lie and randomize data but brave. I simply want to stop using brave as my second browser, I don't even want it installed, but I'm stuck with it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 hours ago Funny you say that because some sites just don't work in librewolf, which is because it is protecting you, but still adds to friction. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago (5 children) For things that specifically need a Chromium-based browser, like WebUSB, I use ungoogled-chromium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (4 children) Ungoogle-chromium still has manifestV2? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 hours ago (3 children) No. Ungoogled-chromium is literally just Chromium with the Google shit stripped out. If you want manifest v2, use something based on Firefox, like Librewolf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children) yeah already main Libre, but that does nothing for me when I need webUSB webSerial or to use google meet sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) I just keep two browsers around for different purposes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (4 children) Ungoogle-chromium still has manifestV2? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 hours ago (3 children) No. Ungoogled-chromium is literally just Chromium with the Google shit stripped out. If you want manifest v2, use something based on Firefox, like Librewolf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children) yeah already main Libre, but that does nothing for me when I need webUSB webSerial or to use google meet sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) I just keep two browsers around for different purposes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 hours ago (3 children) No. Ungoogled-chromium is literally just Chromium with the Google shit stripped out. If you want manifest v2, use something based on Firefox, like Librewolf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children) yeah already main Libre, but that does nothing for me when I need webUSB webSerial or to use google meet sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) I just keep two browsers around for different purposes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children) yeah already main Libre, but that does nothing for me when I need webUSB webSerial or to use google meet sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) I just keep two browsers around for different purposes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) I just keep two browsers around for different purposes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skaffi@infosec.pub -1 points 14 hours ago (1 child) I think you'll find what you need in either Brave or Helium, or both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago Brave does what I need. I just really fucking hate those people. Last time I tried Helium i had to abandon, but fuck if I can remember why. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago Brave does what I need. I just really fucking hate those people. Last time I tried Helium i had to abandon, but fuck if I can remember why. permalink fedilink source parent