I’ll start off by saying I get where the push back is coming from. I heard some of the sub-human things the CEO has said. But I’ve been looking at the competition and I’m not seeing any instant winners.

I get anger I get having morals but constantly changing emails as your main is exhausting. the features Proton offers for me have always worked and worked great.

My question is outside of being a typical CEO AI shareholder simp, has Protons security protocols lapsed ?

What other options ? Particularly ones with generous free tiers.

I’m sure this will get downvoted to hell but I need to ask ..

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Do you have to hate Proton now? Of course not. But you should be getting some warning lights that the company being advertised and the company Andy Yen wants to run seem to be at odds with each other.

I literally made a post about ditching Proton the other day, you may have even seen it

Amongst other things, and probably an unpopular opinion in this community, I am not important. Adblock and what I think of as good internet habits shield me from the worst that "spying" could do to me and the number of personal email correspondancea I have in a year totals to probably less than three messages. What I'm saying, humbly, is that I could switch back to Google tomorrow without much harm. I never used the VPN. I never used the Drive. Proton Pass and maybe some storage space in the Email were the only things of value from my subscription and not worth $13/month in a fair market. My support for Proton was more of a protest against Big Tech than a dire need for E2E "based in Switzerland" Encryption. But if Andy Yen wants to act like Big Tech, I'll treat him like Big Tech.

CEO AI shareholder simp, has Protons security protocols lapsed

A quick note that Proton isn't public and is managed by a non-profit board of trustees, who seem content to let Andy Yen do whatever he wants (no matter how at odds it is to the company mission). No shareholders.

The second point is up for debate, but yeah, IMO, they have. Calling your engineers "losers" for suggesting that AI-written code be tested before shipping and adopting a "more revenue above all else" mindset is a usual indication of security protocols being ignored, but you'll never know the answer to this question until it's too late. I would rather be the frog that jumped too early.

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