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Harm reduction in the Netherlands (feddit.dk)
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[–] 70 points 4 hours ago (8 children)

Same with giving condoms to teenagers. The're not going to fuck more because the have condoms. The're going to fuck the same amount but get pregnant less.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

    I had a zealot of a coworker saying teaching them sexual education and safe sex practices is giving them "permission" to engage in pre-marital sex. So instead, the increased risk of EVERYTHING sex related is better because apparently punishment?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 hours ago*

    Religious people I know, think that STDs are a good thing to punish bad people who have non-marital sex, especially young people.

    In America, people are extremely sex negative, and anything outside procreative sex should be punished, not just discouraged.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 hours ago* (3 children)

    Without data from an intuitive standpoint I can see where she may think sex ed could lead to an increase in pre-marital (I assume teenage) sex, even if more but safer sex is still preferable to less but more risky sex. So I did a quick search and it appears that she’s just wrong anyway!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    The premise still fails, it assumes teenagers are rational actors.

    Are you really going to state that your Axiom is teenagers weigh risks and benefits from all available information?

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  • [–] 1 point 21 minutes ago (1 child)

    I’m confused. What I’m saying is that without looking at data I could totally see someone imagining a teenager saying “oh, cool, I don’t have to worry about having a kid if I just use a condom” then having more sex because of that. And if I could imagine that for one teen, then I could imagine it for many. That doesn’t seem to be the case though based on the link I shared.

    Are you saying teenagers are incapable of weighing pros and cons? Because that wouldn’t make sense. That’s exactly what they’re doing when they play CoD(teens still play that, right?) and decide using a shotgun is the best choice on the Cargo map. Just because their reasoning is less developed doesn’t mean it’s not there.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 minutes ago

    don’t have to worry about having a kid

    No. The current situation is they

    don’t worry about having a kid

    Adding info doesn't change the fact that they are not considering consequences, or value the consequences so low vs the immediate result.

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  • [–] 3 points 22 minutes ago

    I never understood this train of thought. If you go into ANY situation not knowing what you're doing, chances are it will end in a fuck up. Be it sex, driving a car, working with electricity, whatever, if you are untrained you can screw up someone's life.

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