▲ 398 ▼ Educational game dev program cancelled because students were submitting games made entirely with AI (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 1 day ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 110 comments fedilink hide all child comments 🤣 2
[–] Davel23@fedia.io 41 points 1 day ago (7 children) But are they learning anything other than "AI will do it for me"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (6 children) Are they learning anything when you take the fun exercise away from the motivated kids? That’s more my issue. If the other kids are using AI fix THAT. Don’t take away the fun projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children) Well then give us the solution then to this problem of being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop. I'm sure the organizers and judges of this competition who literally started they cannot easily do so would love your answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child) Keep running it, and let the ones who can learn learn? Although it was formatted as a competition, the main point of it was to assist learning, and that wouldn't change for the kids who did put in the effort. If necessary, remove the competition part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 day ago* The main point of this was the competition, the fun was the competition for both the kids and the organizers/judges. Turning it into something else isn't a solution to the problem the organizers were attempting to fix here since again the point and the fun here was the competition. What's the proposed solution for being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop? permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 21 hours ago (1 child) Ask the student to explain how their program works in front of the class, with time for questions at the end. They'll still be able to start with vibe code, but they'll be forced to actually think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 20 hours ago 100% in a classroom setting but that's not what this is. It's not reasonable for the organizers of this national competition to be demanding source code, peer review it, understand it, and then asking the entrant to explain the code and how things work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago You missed the point. No one was doing the "fun exercise". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (6 children) Are they learning anything when you take the fun exercise away from the motivated kids? That’s more my issue. If the other kids are using AI fix THAT. Don’t take away the fun projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children) Well then give us the solution then to this problem of being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop. I'm sure the organizers and judges of this competition who literally started they cannot easily do so would love your answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child) Keep running it, and let the ones who can learn learn? Although it was formatted as a competition, the main point of it was to assist learning, and that wouldn't change for the kids who did put in the effort. If necessary, remove the competition part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 day ago* The main point of this was the competition, the fun was the competition for both the kids and the organizers/judges. Turning it into something else isn't a solution to the problem the organizers were attempting to fix here since again the point and the fun here was the competition. What's the proposed solution for being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop? permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 21 hours ago (1 child) Ask the student to explain how their program works in front of the class, with time for questions at the end. They'll still be able to start with vibe code, but they'll be forced to actually think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 20 hours ago 100% in a classroom setting but that's not what this is. It's not reasonable for the organizers of this national competition to be demanding source code, peer review it, understand it, and then asking the entrant to explain the code and how things work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago You missed the point. No one was doing the "fun exercise". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children) Well then give us the solution then to this problem of being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop. I'm sure the organizers and judges of this competition who literally started they cannot easily do so would love your answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child) Keep running it, and let the ones who can learn learn? Although it was formatted as a competition, the main point of it was to assist learning, and that wouldn't change for the kids who did put in the effort. If necessary, remove the competition part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 day ago* The main point of this was the competition, the fun was the competition for both the kids and the organizers/judges. Turning it into something else isn't a solution to the problem the organizers were attempting to fix here since again the point and the fun here was the competition. What's the proposed solution for being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop? permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 21 hours ago (1 child) Ask the student to explain how their program works in front of the class, with time for questions at the end. They'll still be able to start with vibe code, but they'll be forced to actually think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 20 hours ago 100% in a classroom setting but that's not what this is. It's not reasonable for the organizers of this national competition to be demanding source code, peer review it, understand it, and then asking the entrant to explain the code and how things work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child) Keep running it, and let the ones who can learn learn? Although it was formatted as a competition, the main point of it was to assist learning, and that wouldn't change for the kids who did put in the effort. If necessary, remove the competition part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 day ago* The main point of this was the competition, the fun was the competition for both the kids and the organizers/judges. Turning it into something else isn't a solution to the problem the organizers were attempting to fix here since again the point and the fun here was the competition. What's the proposed solution for being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 day ago* The main point of this was the competition, the fun was the competition for both the kids and the organizers/judges. Turning it into something else isn't a solution to the problem the organizers were attempting to fix here since again the point and the fun here was the competition. What's the proposed solution for being able to easily differentiate student made projects and pure AI slop? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 21 hours ago (1 child) Ask the student to explain how their program works in front of the class, with time for questions at the end. They'll still be able to start with vibe code, but they'll be forced to actually think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 20 hours ago 100% in a classroom setting but that's not what this is. It's not reasonable for the organizers of this national competition to be demanding source code, peer review it, understand it, and then asking the entrant to explain the code and how things work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 20 hours ago 100% in a classroom setting but that's not what this is. It's not reasonable for the organizers of this national competition to be demanding source code, peer review it, understand it, and then asking the entrant to explain the code and how things work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago You missed the point. No one was doing the "fun exercise". permalink fedilink source parent