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[+] -16 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Welcome to the 15th Century where books are prohibited in schools. We favour the age-old method of the scholar-teacher as the sole source of wisdom along with the use of slates for children to copy from The Bible uplifting Psalms and Verses. Allowing children access to books during the school day would only increase the transmission of unhealthy and ungodly ideas and cause disease and anxiety in young people. Naturally, in our better schools learning is conducted in Latin. Signed: His Majesty's English Government.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Lmao you think kids sit on their phones scrolling through ebooks or something?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    This is about having the phones in their bags. Can't really scroll it in your bag. I had my phone in my bag when I was in school and it wasn't a problem. Helped if I wanted to let my parents know I would be home late. Didn't need to use it in school as much as between school and home.

    Plus sometimes might choose to go to an after school club or something like that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    Yeah I know, the post is reasonable. If the government pays for the bags, anyway.

    The comment I replied to was making out that having kids lock their phones away during class was akin to denying them access to any knowledge that might contradict the teacher.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago* (2 children)

    Wrong. By the 1450s, Johannes Gutenberg's movable type and printing innovations gave rise to early printed books (incunabula) such the Gutenberg Bible and the 1493 Nuremberg Chronicle, which used mass-produced book with![

    ](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/a23e7137-c1f2-495c-b772-e59990fc2393.webp) woodcuts for illustrations.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago

    Wrong.

    Howso? I was (non-seriously) referring to the way that the printing presses after Caxton were increasingly regulated by the English government starting in the 15th Century and reaching a high-point in the middle-16th. Fear of the wide transmission of printed materials made them do silly things like only allowing certain numbers of books before the plates had to be smashed. Remember England was a country that had prohibited printed versions of the Bible in English not long before. I'm not sure what your point about Gutenberg is.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago

    By the 1450s, Johannes Gutenberg's movable type and printing innovations gave rise to early printed books (incunabula) such the Gutenberg Bible and the 1493 Nuremberg Chronicle, which used mass-produced books with woodcuts for illustrations.

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  • [–] 4 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

    What on earth are you on about.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    Maybe stop spending all your time flipping pages on your book and you might get it? (Also a bit of basic historical knowledge about the history of the printing press and books would help.) Apologies if this went over your head though.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    I can’t tell if it’s gone over my head tbh. It sounds like you’re likening the banning of mobile phones to the banning of books, which is just laughable. Which makes me think I’ve not understood. You’d have far more of a point if they’d banned e-readers and access to library computers, wikipedia etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    On LBC radio yesterday, one of their presenters seriously asked "Are mobile phones now more dangerous than smoking?"

    I was just drawing attention to the way people join in the hysteria about stuff like this. I grew up when it was illegal to own a copy The Evil Dead on video because it was a "video nasty" and would corrupt minds and lead to the fall of civilisation. I've lived through similar hysterics about heavy metal, hiphop, video games and hoodies.

    (My son's secondary school HAS banned ereaders and restricts computers to local apps without internet access at all.)

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago

    Ah okay, that does make your point a little clearer tbf. I agree a lot of it is hysteria, and it exists purely in the vaccum of ignorance which could be solved with a bit more wisdom.

    That said, I work in tech and there’s a bit more to this one. I don’t think it should involve not having access to a phone at all, and it shouldn’t impact a parents ability to get in contact with their child after school for example, but a lot of apps on phones do cause real harm to developing brains and because a lot of parents simply aren’t being responsible enough in guiding their children’s relationship with technology, I at least somewhat understand why schools are doing something. I don’t think preventing kids from feeding an addiction to instagram at lunchtime is anything but a good thing.

    I think banning e-readers is beyond ridiculous though, as is preventing any kind of internet connection instead of using allowlists for things like wikipedia and whatnot. That’s lazy and also prevents developing a good relationshii with the internet.

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