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  • [–] 9 points 13 hours ago* (15 children)

    I mean there are many ways to transliterate Cyrillic to Latin letters (depending, among other things, on which Latin-script language you are writing in); but the man's name is Зеленський, where you will notice that the second and fourth letter is exactly the same, so transliterating one of them "e" and the other "i" is indeed nonsensical.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago (10 children)

    For transliteration sure.. but both of the letters in question are pronounced differently.. The first е is unstressed but the second е is stressed. This would make the first sound more like an i, especially for Russians, which would make more sense if they had written Zilensky based on how it sounds when spoken

    Either way, call it a little typo

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (9 children)

    By any chance, are you versed in Ukrainian-Russian differences? I was wondering if anyone could chime in as to whether Ukrainian has the misfeature of unstressed vowels turning into other ones, like 'eh'-'ee', 'oh'-'ah' and such. Of course, Eastern Ukrainians tend to speak Russian anyway, but I don't quite think it affects the language itself that much.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

    I don't know if I'd call it a misfeature, English does it a lot

    It's been forever since I learned any Ukrainian but Ukrainian is a lot more "strict" with their vowel sounds than Russian

    о stays an о, unlike Russian where it can become an "ah"

    As far as I am aware with Ukrainian it's just е raised towards и (and back again depending on where stress is placed), hence the original comment. Trips up everyone learning Ukrainian

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago (7 children)

    о stays an о, unlike Russian where it can become an “ah”

    Thanks, that's what I was curious about.

    English does it a lot

    I mean, in English 'dog', 'dag' and 'doc' are all completely different words.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    That's different, it's one letter having different sounds in different words. The words I wrote could be homonyms in Russian.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago (1 child)

    photograph -> photography

    democrat -> democracy

    The o vowel collapses

    "to" "and" "for" collapse unless stressed

    It's the core reason why spelling words in English is so hard

    You can't hear whether it's separate or seperate, much like Ukrainian with е and и

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago* (2 children)

    Because English doesn't have any letters that are pronounced in different ways depending on the context. Neither does Cyrillic. That's a unique thing to the French.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago (1 child)

    Huh? Not sure what parts, of any, of this strange statement are meant to be ironic; but of course English has letters that are pronounced in different ways depending on context, for example "c" sometimes makes a k sound, sometimes s sound.

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