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[–] 11 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I've never understood the hate that lawyers get. We need people that understand the law.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Because (almost) every legal battle is pay-to-win. Yes, lawyers understand the law, and they charge a whole lot for that knowledge. Unless the case the EXTREMELY in your favour, you're practically defenseless if your opponent out-moneyed you.

    So I guess the hate is more towards the justice system, rather than just lawyers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Yeah, IANAL but I'm in the legal field, and I watch people try to handle their case pro se, or for oneself or on one's own behalf would be the literal translation. It generally means someone didn't want to pay a lawyer and they have time to waste, and they're also a little crazy. And that probably sounds unfair, but I have yet to work with a pro se litigant who I thought was a rational, grounded individual.

    Entering litigation is expensive. Trying to solve problems before litigation is encouraged, even by judges. Lawyers are a last resort, and they will make it very hard on the other side.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    Anyone who decides to be their own lawyer has an idiot for a client. It is quite true.

    And nobody has to take your word for it if they don't want to. I have zero connection with anything legal (erm, maybe I should rephrase that hehe) but I watch youtube videos since a lot started streaming around Covid, and almost all of the pro se people reeeeaaaaallllyyyyy shoulda gotten a lawyer.

    Of course, there is some selection bias as it's the interesting stuff that generally gets posted, but still. Even if you're quite sane, knowing what to do even before a very friendly and sympathetic judge is not easy and you are likely to make mistakes that cost you the case.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Every single one I have dealt with is fucking awful. I'm currently being billed for being billed by my current (and about to be previous) lawyer. Yes, this is illegal. They put their hourly rates up without informing me, which is a requirement - supposed to be 14 days notice. They charged almost $20k for a template with some blanks filled in, riddled with typos. They take a month to respond to simple corrections.

    Every lawyer I have dealt with in every area of law has been a painful teeth pulling experience that tries to scam the shit out of you.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Damn, that sounds awful. Every lawyer I've dealt with has been so professional that I've thought "They're expensive, but at least they definitely know their stuff." And then they've been pretty quick with meetings and such.

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