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[–] neatchee@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago* (6 children)

You've got the analogy wrong.

It's a fucking insane analogy but I'll humor you and work with the framework you've provided:

Rapists (AI scrapers) attacked the actual victims (site owners) causing them grievous harm (massive bandwidth bills). So the victims put a barrier in place to seeing them at all (anti-bot tech).

Now you've come along complaining that you have to pass the bouncer to look at tits.

You've told the victims "your defense is inconveniencing me" instead of going after the rapists, or accepting that the protective measures are necessary.

Good job.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 0 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Both the sites defending against bots and the people who have extra hurdles to using those sites are victims. The people are using adblockers because ads are malicious and there is a conflict between the people and the sites.

The person I reaponded to blamed people for using adblockers and other security features for causing their own experience with sites doing an obnoxious number of verification steps. If they just said it was conflict or something they wouldn't be blaming, but they said that the person was the one who caused fhe issues by trying to protect themselves.

It isn't complicated once you understsnd that sites are not the only victims and shit rolls downhill. The original source of the problem doesn't invalidate the victim blaming.

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[–] neatchee@piefed.social 1 point 13 hours ago* (4 children)

No, they were responding to YOU saying that you refuse to engage with the settings of your ad blocker to whitelist certain sites.

Your unwillingness to be part of the solution is not victim blaming. Your analogy was shit.

Yes, there are multiple different victims. We all have to make accommodations. As a site operator it costs me time and money to stop the bot attacks. The least you can do as a user is learn how to adjust your ad blocker settings.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

You don't usually have to whitelist the whole site, just elements is my understanding. Some people have knowledge or patience to di this, others don't. At any rate, there's no need for hostility from that user.

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[–] neatchee@piefed.social 1 point 9 hours ago*

Yes you can just allowlist certain elements, but that's a whole of effort for a site you presumably trust. For most people, just allowlisting the site that's giving them issues is enough.

And yeah, that other user is...weird