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can we shout out to the fediverse developers, for making the fediverse possible (thelemmy.club)
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shout out to the lemmy developers for not making us be stuck on the other site

shout out to mastodon devs for making us have a better life than on Twitter

shout out to the pixelfed devs for allowing a actual photography platform to exist

shout out to the peertube devs for helping us not be stuck on youtube until the end of time

ETA: Shout out to the server operators who make the stuff be done

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[+] -13 points 10 hours ago* (23 children)

So a few corrections:

  1. Tankies aren't a bad thing, and it's a nazi dogwhistle as pointed out by your link.

  2. Being a 'Tankie,' isn't a bad thing, it's being anti-nazi. The Term was invented by nazis, to criticize the soviet union crushing a nazi uprising with tanks, barely a decade after they won WWII.

  3. The tanks in Tiannamen square were the good guys. Objectively so. Maybe don't root for the CIA?

Please be smarter than you are. The people that own every aspect of your life are obviously going to lie to you to keep you under their ownership. It takes very little to debunk their lies.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 child)

    The sources for the blog post in point number 3 are pretty spotty. They quote Western media like the Washington Post or a former Australian official without giving the proper links or citations. The citations to some “Western” sources like Amnesty International are there but these sources are only brought in so the authors can get nitpicky about their word choices. The only solid source I could find was the WikiLeaks source from the US embassy, but that doesn’t contradict the massacre narrative because the wire could have been sent before the violence peaked. The more substantive claims rely on YouTube videos or other blog posts for their sources.

    I’m not trying to be hostile by saying this; I’m willing to hear you out. But I will need a far higher standard of rigour before I’m willing to take any of these ideas seriously.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

    this is literal misinformation

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  • [+] -10 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

    Be more specific, and please link explicit examples with sources, instead of using thought terminating phrases that your owner taught you when something clashes with their programming.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

    just duckduckgo it

    1: the word "tankie" was made by reformist communistsm not nazis

    2: you have a million pieces of evidence about the tanks killing normal people

    3: and no, Democracy is a real thing, and capitalism can be regulated with rules (Genius for your chicken strips brain, but not for me), most of the EU is an example

    4: there is no thought in communism, communism is the most vague thing on earth, it cannot pair with democracy since it's so vague

    your odor lingers on

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  • [–] 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

    the word “tankie” was made by reformist communistsm not nazis

    Answered in the First link, calling the CGRB 'reformist communists' is the same as calling nazis 'reformist socialists' because they have socialist in the name.

    you have a million pieces of evidence about the tanks killing normal people

    No, you don't. In fact, you don't have a single one, because that was never the claim for Tiannamen square. The tanks sheltered the soldiers from gunfire during the rebellion. This is answered in the second link.

    and no, Democracy is a real thing,

    Correct, and all forms of socialism have democracy built in, as socialism is democracy applied to the economy.

    and capitalism can be regulated with rules (Genius for your chicken strips brain, but not for me), most of the EU is an example

    The same EU that uses slave labor for most of its wealth? [1]

    Regulated capitalism still requires exploitation in order to function, because it is still capitalism, which is exploitative by nature.

    there is no thought in communism

    There's more thought in communism than there is in capitalism, as communism is based on the scientific method, and capitalism is built on the idea some people are born better than others. [2]

    your odor lingers on

    I hope you realize your place and the fact you will never be a capitalist. Education is free and easy these days.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    1: of course your using 3 links referening to communist newspapers and others (what did i expect), Having No Evidence

    2: go to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Citations, then look and read them all (the ones written in english)

    3: no all communist and socialist countries, are not actual democracies in being free

    4: there is no evidence with the EU encouraging any form of slave labor, that wasn't in the 1700s, and also many of those companies that exploit are likely gonna become illegal by some day

    5: then why are all those soviet union countries and china and communist nations, exploit people, kill them, and many more, if there was thought in it, none of that would happen

    6: your fart lingers on

    7: communism hides the issues with its economy, capitalism doesn't

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  • [–] 0 points 8 hours ago
    1. They are all sourced.
    2. My links explicitly answer those sources and address them.
    3. All socialist countries that currently exist use democracy.
    4. That is hilariously naive little fascist.
    5. Why do you think that they do?
    6. Good argument little fascist.
    7. Why do you think this when all information about the government is public information in communist countries?
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  • [–] 5 points 9 hours ago* (3 children)

    Tankie was made by leftists to describe authcoms support for the Soviets after they used tanks on a student protest in Hungary.

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  • [–] -5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    Aww it’s a little CowBee, here to spread more misinformation.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    Sweet, fresh name for the blocklist.

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  • [+] -12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

    That's sad that you have so much potential[1][2][3], but then blindly and stupidly believe everything the American government tells you to believe when it comes to non-white and non-western people. The links will still be available for you when you decide to grow past your limitations and your owner's education.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

    False:

    1. "Tankie" was coined by orthodox communists to describe and criticize party members who supported the Soviet Union's use of military tanks to brutally crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956. And, since you really love sources,

    The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie 2. The Tiannamen Square protests are led by a vast majority of students. Reading the article you cited, it states: "...and are clear that the "protesters" (rioters) initiated the deadly violence in Beijing (none of which occurred in Tiananmen Square itself)." You can see that this mofo denies the massacre happening because it literally didn't happen in the Square (true, but a non-sequitur). Secondly, that the protestors initiated the violence. The protests were peaceful, until the Chinese government declared martial law and ordered thousands of People's Liberation Army (PLA) troops into Beijing. 3. Sure. The article is fucking misleading. Let's assume it is right, and even then, your (3) is yet again a non-sequitur: because the protestors initiated the violence does not make the massacre justified.

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  • [+] -6 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

    Hi, my two sources directly answer your CIA propaganda and debunk it.

    Thanks for proving your illiteracy.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago* (4 children)

    Hi, yes. One of your sources, Hampton Think, is a leftist "proletariat" (self-described; on Hampton Think's about page). They are an open platform with no fact checking, so:

    1. Not only are you citing a leftist source, which, saying this by itself, is an ad hominem
    2. And they have no fact-checking or peer review
    3. You are using it to justify anti-capitalist and pro-socialist ideologies. This is circular logic; using anti-capitalist cherry-picked proof to reinforce your anti-capitalist ideology. Addendum: What do you think about "In defense of Communism", your second source? Yeah. Give me some real sources next time.
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