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[–] 1 point 2 days ago (5 children)

This will surely be unpopular, but I think the best thing to do would be to break up the country. The US is a huge country and has become basically ungovernable within our two party system. The federal government is hopelessly corrupt. The electorate is bitterly divided and misinformation is all over the place with no real way to stop it. I think it would be wise to break up into smaller groups (I'm thinking the states could become sovereign nations), which would make real change more achievable. Some states would be lost causes, but at least they wouldn't be tanking all of us. Food for thought...

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    That would be a very ugly process... It's not like we'd come out on the other side as a close collection of states like the EU. It would be brutal and extremely chaotic

    I think the federal government has been critically damaged over the last 2 years, so I think a lot of power is going to return to the states naturally. I think we have an opportunity to redefine what happens federally starting in January, and I think the answer to that can't be "nothing"

    I don't want to test the might of individual states against megacorps. And we are going to be up against megacorps either way

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago*

    Megacorps already own the federal government. The break up of the US could be relatively peaceful. Well, at least it could be similar to the break up of the Soviet Union; there would be some clashes and violence, but it would be better than a full scale civil war or a revolution. I know that a lot of people are hopeful right now. I am too, but very reserved about it. At least we know our votes still count... But the corruption remains. At best, it's just a little more diluted. Right now is probably not the right time to bring up dissolution of the United States, but wait two years when people are moaning about nothing changing and things still being too expensive. Watch the Nazis get a real chance to gain back power. It was never possible to change things. The government is corrupt and powerless. Now what?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Breaking up the country means dooming tons of people in states that rely on federal assistance (ie, southern states where marginalized people already suffer more). If we want to rethink/reorganize/retool the federal government, I'm on board. But dissolving it completely would be disastrous

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    That may be true, but I think you are assuming that there is an easy way out. What if there isn't? What if the interests of the ultra wealthy have infested our government to the point where it serves only them and will defend their positions of power at all cost? We would be talking violent revolt if we wanted to better our situation anyway. In order to prevent the same situation from quickly redeveloping, we might want to break up the country into more manageable territories. The larger the group, the more difficult it is to reach consensus. You are right that some would be better off than others. That is true now though.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago

    No, it's not just that some would be better off than others. There would be entire states that would be destitute without the federal government. Multiple states receive more in federal aid/grants/etc. than what their people pay in taxes. Removing the federal government would instantly throw them into bankruptcy. There would be famines.

    I'm not assuming there's an easy way out. Fixing the federal government will be one of the hardest projects in the country's history. But dissolving it won't fix anything, and it surely won't make revolution any easier. Kinda hard to revolt when you're dying of hunger.

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