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[–] 8 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Wasn't it someone calling her a transwoman?

She supported trans rights.

While she does not support surgical intervention for minors, Andrews does believe in socially affirming the professed gender identity of young children before transitioning them into a medical protocol around puberty that could include hormone blockers and cross-sex hormones.

I think most people agree that irreversible cosmetic (aka not medically necessary) surgeries shouldn't be done on children underage.

Is anyone actually saying they should? So that's a moot point.

As for her recent comment on sports.

“So, I want you to hear me loud and clear. I don’t support [transgender women] playing women’s sports. And I don’t support and haven’t ever performed gender surgery for minors.”

https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article317625274.html

She does say "women". Not girls.

She's not saying children should be banned from playing sports.

And as for adult women , trans or cis , playing on men's teams, ...this is a complex topic with no simple response.

So I disagree with giving a blanket statement. But maybe she hasn't thought about it much or looked into it more.

Quite a lot of gender divided sports are because historically , women were excluded. So they started their own. Or because men were afraid a woman would beat them. (Oh the indignity!) Not because there are biological differences that make them too different to compete.

Like golf. Archery, billiards, chess, and probably a ton more.

I'm not saying we give her a free pass. I'm saying she's not "anti trans" just because she doesn't endorse every complex issue relating to trans people.

We need to keep watch and see how she proceeds with policies and trans rights.

I realize that there is a lot of anti trans rhetoric right now. And it's not just talk. It's leading to insane bathroom laws, and banning kids in sports. Requiring genital inspections.

It's dangerous. Harmful.

But she's not a Republican obsessed with trans women/girls.

Her perspective likely comes from a place of knowledge about human bodies. And likely a lack of knowledge about changes in bodies as a result of hormone transitioning. Because there still isn't much research on this.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 hours ago* (2 children)

    Daannii, you may not realize this, but The State edited out exactly what so many people find so offensive.

    The actual, unedited quote:

    “I want you to hear me loud and clear: I don’t support biological men playing in women’s sports, and I don’t support and haven’t ever performed gender surgery for minors,” Andrews said in a new ad.

    The ad itself, for anyone who wants to hear it from Dr. Andrews directly.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago* (1 child)

    Maybe she said "biological men" to clarify since conservatives seem to genuinely be confused about trans designations.

    I realize it's inappropriate to refer to a transwoman as a "biological male". That's something a trans person can disclose to their doctors if needed but it isn't really anyone else's business. And such a term is dehumanizing as it denotes someone as a "specimen".

    I don't think Andrew's was talking about a specific person. Just clarifying for ignorant people.

    But I don't know for sure. Maybe someone should ask her.

    I just try to give people the benefit of the doubt when they haven't shown any prior behavior that would indicate discrimination tendencies.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago

    Everything you say is possible, though increasingly doubtful: she's already faced more than enough shit for it to walk it back or to clarify further if she wanted. Also, the unedited quote I provided was her clarification. I sincerely hope she proves you right.

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