Residents across the state of Washington breathed a sigh of relief this week after the passage of Initiative 638 guaranteed girls are finally safe now that they’re required to show an adult their vagina in order to play school sports.

“Thanks to I-638, all my 12-year-old daughter has to do now to be spared the trauma of losing 5th place to a trans girl in track is show her vagina to an adult,” said local father Hank Hanson. “I love that under this new law, not even a birth certificate is enough for a girl to prove her gender because that deprives children of the opportunity to proudly show their reproductive organs to an adult while I stand in the room and watch to add that extra feeling of comfort and safety.”

Girls who play sports from middle school on up thanked the 1.5 million adults who went so out of their way to make minors living in a country run by a pedophile feel that much more seen.

“Nothing makes me feel safer and more excited to play sports quite like being forced to spread my legs for an adult who’s in at least their 30s,” said 13-year-old soccer player Brittney Rigby. “I don’t know why anyone thought passage of this law might deter girls from playing sports at all. What kind of 7th grader isn’t excited to let an adult they don’t know get a good look at her privates? Pretty routine middle school physical stuff, I’ve heard.”

At press time, boys who play school sports were still sadly completely unsafe due to not being forced to show an adult their penises.

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[–] -4 points 7 hours ago (9 children)

When I was a kid, we had to get our penises touched by an adult to play sports, and that was just the physical we were required to have. I think I had to have another just to go to school in the first place, iirc. "Turn your head and cough" and whatnot. I'm surprised kids don't have to have a physical anymore, tbh.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (8 children)
    1. Those were to check for hernias, not sex. 2. They don't check all boys for hernias anymore, just when there's symptoms or risk. 3. Examining girls to determine sex is incredibly more invasive. It requires penetration or DNA swab.
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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    You cannot feel ovaries from the vagina. You can “see” ovaries through the vagina wall if you get a transvaginal ultrasound, but you cannot feel them by hand or with any tool. Ultrasound is the only way to confirm an ovary is present/where the ovary is. As to what any given doctor will consider “good enough” to determine their sex is up for debate, medical paperwork, visual inspection, physical inspection of the vulva… who knows the initiative was incredibly vague on this point because they wanted plausible deniability. That said I can promise you, no doctor anywhere is feeling anyone’s ovaries through their vaginal wall, it’s physically not possible.

    It’s clearly a bill to harm the trans community outright and disenfranchise and traumatize little girls trying to play sports as a “bonus” it’s an outrageous and disgusting thing that will only and explicitly hurt kids and I’m ashamed of my state for passing it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago*

    You can absolutely feel the ovaries through the lower abdomen, if the girl/woman is thin.

    Source: used to be thin, have always kept up with doctors appointments. Not exactly thin now but still thin enough to be able to have ovaries located through palpation.

    The rest of what you have to say is right.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child)

    Hm I’m probably wrong, I’ll amend my comment. I’ve certainly had doctors press my lower abdomen from the exterior while feeling from inside and tell me they were checking my ovaries, etc.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago

    This person is wrong--you can feel ovaries via external palpation as long as there isn't a significant fat pad in the area (I assume there are also less common reasons to be unable to feel them this way that I'm not familiar with as well since ever body is different).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (3 children)
    1. Sure, but surely it does both, if they had even thought of making it a requirement back then, so surely it would do both now.

    2. TIL, been a long time since I was a kid. Cool I guess, so at what age are kids required to drop trou at the doctor these days, never unless there's a specific issue? Can they conceivably get all the way to ogbyn-age (idk what that would be) or 45 for a prostate exam?

    3. Surely it doesn't "require" that, there has to be another way. (I'm assuming you mean they require it here, but I mean there's gotta be another way in existence).

    Not that they should, I'm just surprised to learn they don't already do it (even if for other reasons) anymore.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child)
    1. Sports physicals have never had determining sex as a goal. Hernia checks are not sex checks.
    2. Having male presenting genitalia is not a 100% accurate way of determining sex.
    3. Expensive DNA tests
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  • [–] -1 points 5 hours ago
    1. Re-read that, because evidentially you mistook it.

    2. What does that have to do with getting naked at the doctor for regular tests? I'm wondering what the current age for that is, since you seem to be aware, and I'm only aware of my childhood era's practices.

    3. Well digital ovary manipulation and expensive tests doesn't seem like an exhaustive list, but to be fair everything at the doctor is expensive, depending on country.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    Regarding #2, the age to start seeing a gynecologist is after the first menstruation cycle or after first sexual activity or if there are worrying symptoms. So this can start as early as ten or eleven but is more commonly about fourteen or fifteen.

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