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Is it important to hold naturalized citizens accountable to their citizenship oaths or declarations? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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[–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Once you're an American, it's your god given absolute right to say fuck it to whatever bullshit song and dance they made you do

Anyone currently standing on American soil has that right, too, but for the Americans, its extra god given

(This is what we promised ourselves, this is how things are supposed to be, but unfortunately this is not the case in 2025 and has never been the case depending on your skin color)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It's important to note, as you are implying here, that the rights that are protected in the bill of rights aren't granted exclusively to citizens. Take the fourth amendment for example:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    It says nothing about citizenship, but instead refers to people.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    English is my second language, but it says "the people", as in " this very specific group of citizens", not "people" in general.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    It says "the people" as in "this very specific group of citizens people, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States"

    You're correct that it applies to a specific group and not just all people in general, but you are incorrectly pulling a "citizens" qualifier out of thin air. The group qualifier is jurisdiction.

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