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The monopoly in the minds (media.piefed.zip)
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imagine if skyrim was the most popular game of all time by an orderof magnitude and people caleld video games ‘skyrims’. and it cost ninety dollars and took up half the average computers hard drive. and then peoel would be on nexus being like ‘hi guys check out my farming sim skyrim mod’ and it just had you kiling draugr but on a farm. and people were like ‘yeah i think that you just cant do farm simulation in video games’ and if anyone brought up stardew valley theyd be like ‘okay well first of all its presumptuous to assume i can afford a second video game or have space for it on my hard drive. and Second of all when i play skyrim i just run back and forth around the towns picking up all the cabbages for seven hours on end so i don’t see why i’d need a whole game programmed to be about farming. i can play skyrim the way i want to. stop gatekeeping gaming.’ anyway thats what its like to like ttrpgs other than dungeons and dragons.
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[–] 54 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I had a friend’s son come to me asking to learn to program so he could make video games. I started teaching him C#, and he thought it was too hard. He said he just wants to learn to make Roblox mods. It was very disappointing.

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  • [–] 71 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I used to teach programming to young kids (like 8-12) as a summer job and never had a single kid complain about the difficulty or fail to learn. This was about a decade ago.

    I recently tried teaching my cousin (9) using the same curriculum and it was nearly impossible. He didn't know how to turn his computer on or off and he didn't know what a file was or what "text" means. I basically had to root his Chromebook to install a competent text editor on it. Then every time the "computer" booted it said something like "press G to revert" in huge text for like a minute straight and I told him never to press it. Took like 2 hours to put the computer in a state where you could code on it, and next session after that it was reset. I was like "what happened to the computer?" and he said "it said to press G so I did"

    Kids are fucked bro. I blame Google, Apple, and Microsoft for intentionally designing their software to prevent you from learning how computers work or how to use them. They don't want you developing any transferrable skills whatsoever. You used to learn all about computers just by using them and it was impossible not to...

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago*

    This has been a thorn in my side at least as far back as Windows 8, and the LLM craze has only thrown jet fuel on the damn fire

    EDIT: I don't have to deal with kids that much but I've noticed that it's wrapped around to affecting older adults and that's maybe worse since they're the same generation as the politicians making decisions for all of us involving technology

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago* (3 children)

    I mean, people have different paths of entry into programming, lots of them started by making mods for their favorite game. And Lua is a great lightning-fast language with minimal footprint, excellent for interactive use-cases, that folks keep dismissing for no good reason.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    It was more that he just wanted something easy. He didn’t want to work for it. He thought that making Roblox mods would mean he didn’t need to learn to program.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    I wonder if there's some kinda visual environment, maybe in the vein of Scratch, that would trick him into learning programming while not feeling that way. That's often the approach that one must take not only with children, but even in adulthood when the full-blown subject feels too much for one's bandwidth.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago*

    That's so sad. I feel like (perhaps pre-Microslop) Minecraft modding or Gmod scripting would teach people to code too, but Roblox is just so damn predatory.

    It runs off the free labor of children hoping to make money. I feel like few people are going to learn to code and enjoy it with that kinda motive.

    I noticed people would build skills so fast when it was about doing fun stuff to share with friends or a community because they thought it would be cool.

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