Okay, so the CEO of Proton didn’t pass your purity test, I get it. But you know which CEOs also suck? The CEO of Google and the CEO of Microsoft. How can we expect secure and private alternatives to these ecosystems to flourish if we are constantly engaged in infighting? We will get nowhere if we reject every service that is short of perfect. Let’s keep our eyes on the bigger picture here.

Another hot take: I suspect that at least some of the hate directed at Proton is a smear campaign by some state actor who wants to see private online platforms fail.

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It's become painfully obvious to me that people in general cannot think without binary good/bad being front and center. Proton deserves criticism and we should demand better. But I've encountered dozens, maybe hundreds, of users who either outright say they are as bad as Google, or want you to think that by the novel they wrote to convince you.

It seems impossible for most people to become concerned and criticize without outright damning and becoming defensive and enraged if you suggest not doing that. You cannot even suggest something completely reasonable and true like "nothing is perfect" without a commenter stopping reading right there and telling you what a garbage human you are for welcoming fascists into the world. Those reactions just tell me that a lot of people are so isolated, they'd never be able to converse with a typical person, who btw has never heard of proton, signal, or any other app that is less shitty to use. Because those types of users will bite your head off for anything perceived as standing up for apps/companies/platforms they have deemed impure.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Very well said, thank you. And this culture of toxicity is not conducive to mainstream adoption of these platforms.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Yep. I feel like I suffer from binary thinking often enough but if I look at Lemmy I often get the impression that I'm one of the few people capable of avoiding that mindset. I don't know how people survive thinking that way. I just switched to proton and it's not fun updating your email in 100 spots. If I thought like that I literally would've had to repeat the process immediately again versus weighing the pros and cons and considering the possibility that things might improve. It's possible given that the entire selling point for their customers has been somewhat rendered null or at least heading that way. The CEO could be ousted tomorrow. If I switched already what have I proven other than my supposed moral purity?

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