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[–] 1 point 1 week ago (4 children)

The ml communities are generally Marxist-Leninist, which is the biggest branch of socialism worldwide both at the present moment and historically. Marxists butting heads with social democrats and reformists is as old as Marxism itself, and doesn't mean Marxists aren't socialists.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (3 children)

    But the ml community aren't socialist. They don't follow Marxist-Leninist worldviews, even though they try to claim they do.

    They are anti-west imperialist, paid for by Capitalist Imperialist countries like Russia and China.

    .ml communities have as much to do with socialism as Santa has to do with Jesus. They could be named in the same sentence, but are completely opposite of each other.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Please elaborate clearly. Do not vaguepost.

    1. How do the people on Lemmy.ml not follow Marxism-Leninism in practice?

    2. According to Marxism-Leninism, how are Russia and China imperialist?

    3. According to Marxism-Leninism, how is China capitalist?

    4. What evidence, if any, do you have of Lemmy.ml, as an instance or individual users, being paid for by Russia, China, or any other country?

    This is a conspiracy theory at best, please substantiate it.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I'll tell it slow so you brain can comprehend.

    .ml are tankies. They simp for authoritarian regimes like Russia and China. But Russia and China are as much Socialist, Communist or Maxist-Leninist, as North-Korea is a democracy.

    Russia is imperialist because they invade sovereign nations. Doesn't matter that they are bad at it. Nobody there wants anything to do with Russia. And Russia should stay out.

    China still has shareholders, investors, oligarchs, billionaires, and they play on the stock market. That their government tries to worm its way into every business does not change this.

    My proof that .ml is being paid by Russia and China is this entire comment section. You only see .ml and .dbzer0 accounts trying to sow discontent and get Republicans elected again. Only those accounts. Which makes it quite obvious.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago*

    You didn't answer any of my questions, lmao.

    .ml are tankies. They simp for authoritarian regimes like Russia and China. But Russia and China are as much Socialist, Communist or Maxist-Leninist, as North-Korea is a democracy.

    Nobody on Lemmy.ml "simps" for the Russian Federation, nor do we believe it's socialist, nor run by a Marxist-Leninist party. The People's Republic of China and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are both socialist countries run by communist parties (a Marxist-Leninist-Xi Jinping Thought party in China and a juche socialist party in Korea). The reason is because social ownership is the principal, ie rising (in quantity and quality) and dominant aspect of their economies, and the working class controls their states.

    Both the PRC and DPRK are democratic, see professor Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance for scholarly work on the subject.

    Russia is imperialist because they invade sovereign nations. Doesn’t matter that they are bad at it. Nobody there wants anything to do with Russia. And Russia should stay out.

    This is a liberal definition of imperialism, not a Marxist-Leninist definition. By your definition, the Statesian North was imperialist for invading the Statesian South, and Northern Vietnam was imperialist for invading Southern Vietnam. Imperialism is understood as an actual material process, one that in the capitalist era emerges from monopoly finance capital, and has the following characteristics:

    • The monopolies generate the enormous finance capital.

    • The banks are the vehicle through which this finance capital is organized and exported.

    • The international monopolist associations are the cartelized form of this exported finance capital dividing the world.

    • The territorial division is the political-military guarantee for the safe operation of this exported finance capital.

    Russia has a tiny sum of finance capital, and is largely an industrial economy gatekept from global finance by the dollar system.

    China still has shareholders, investors, oligarchs, billionaires, and they play on the stock market. That their government tries to worm its way into every business does not change this.

    China indeed has private property, but this does not make them capitalist, just like having some degree of peasants did not make Britain feudal even when private property was the dominant aspect of the economy and the bourgeoisie in control of the state. China instead takes a Marxist position, that the productive basis of markets is in underdeveloped and decentralized production, while the productive basis of planned economy is centralized and socialized production.

    Markets in centralized sectors "enshittify," while planning scattered and underdeveloped production results in inefficiencies and corruption. China socially owns the commanding heights while marketizing underdeveloped sectors, and gradually folds the socializing production into the planned sector. Here's a diagram:

    My proof that .ml is being paid by Russia and China is this entire comment section. You only see .ml and .dbzer0 accounts trying to sow discontent and get Republicans elected again. Only those accounts. Which makes it quite obvious.

    So in other words, you have no proof, and instead lie about the left criticizing democrats and pointing out the necessity of revolution as support for Republicans, and blame this lie on foreign agitation. You have absolutely no proof, just a gut feeling that you feel entitled you to slander and libel.

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