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Valve has ‘a significant number’ working on Steam’s visibility dilemma but says it won’t gatekeep games made with AI (www.videogameschronicle.com)
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[–] 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Because AI usage is complicated. AI has been in Photoshop for a long time, as an example. Where does the line get drawn? Everyone has different opinions on this, including consumers. So either Valve would have to make a clear definition, or they would let publishers decide for themselves, which is basically irrelevant to most consumers.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (7 children)

    It’s not complicated. If you used a generative AI tool to make the game, it should require a label, period.

    In your example, there is a clear and obvious difference between using traditional drawing tools and using the AI features.

    Should there be distinguishing labels for different types of use (art vs code vs music vs writing etc)? Probably, but if you don’t want the label, get good and don’t use those tools. It’s not hard. Game devs were making amazing stuff before these tools became available.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago* (5 children)

    I guarantee if you ask artists and programmers across studios, even indie studios, they would also have very different definitions from you.

    No one has cared in the past if artists used Photoshop's content aware fill, which is a form of generative AI, and that has been out for a long time now, like 6 years or so.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Content Aware Fill only started incorporating genai about a year ago. With that option on, it's much more effective at large-scale removal than before, but the use is pretty similar.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I don't think it should be surprising that people started caring about it more after it got shoved in their faces for a few years and a ludicrous portion of the world's economy got tied up in it

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I don't disagree. My original point still stands though, this is pretty nuanced. There are tons of hard-working skilled artists that use AI, even gen AI, to increase productivity.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Steam doesn't do anything to stop devs explaining how and what they used in the disclosure. If it's "content-aware fill was used in the creation of skyboxes", they can say that

    But also, I think that the issue could be solved well enough by Steam just listing what counts. If it's a grey area and a line is to be drawn somewhere, so be it. Something like CAF potentially falling on the wrong side of it is nowhere near enough of a cost to justify just not informing buyers in my opinion

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago

    Or use the tools and simply ignore the labels. Nothing will stop you, and no one can prove you used the tools.

    Using the labels, at all, is literally self-volunteering to be targeted by a hate-mob. With no benefit whatsoever. It's hilarious anyone interacts with the labels at all right now, but it's only a matter of time before almost no one at all does.

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