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[–] dumples@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (12 children) Is it vegan to consume semen? It's made by an animal. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (10 children) As long as there's consent, yes. Animals can't consent, but humans can. As long as you consume human semen, it's vegan. The donkey semen the contestants drank in that one episode of fear factor is not nor could ever be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children) what about the restaurant at the end of the universe? where they breed super intelligent cows who can consent to be eaten, and want to be eaten. I get the whole breeding program is definitely non vegan, but the final cow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) That's a lot of the argument around lab grown meat which has technology discovered through nonvegan means, but that really depends on how far you want to take veganism. Would you reject most medical procedures because they were developed through nonvegan means? I wouldn't, nor do I think people should, but if we created a species that only wants to die, that seems very unethical and like we're taking away their free will. Can they really consent if they only ever want to die? I don't think so, and I wouldn't wish that existence on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago didn't realize that science fiction thought experiment was relevant to medicine. if we were to throw away all the research and knowledge we acquired through non ethical means, we would kill so many people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 point 1 week ago breed Commodification of animals speciesism, which is the root of what makes something non-vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That makes absolutely no sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumples@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) So with that logic I can make vegan cheese if I use a consenting women's breast milk. Correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Yes. In contrast to dairy milk, that would mean that you are not forcibly impregnating the mother and murdering her baby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dumples@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago That makes sense thank you permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago Everything gross in this world always seems to tie back to Joe Rogan somehow permalink fedilink source parent [–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago Consent to which part, though? Are we allowed to trick people into knowingly jizzing into jars if we never disclose that we're consuming it from the jar? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 4 points 1 week ago spoiler permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (10 children) As long as there's consent, yes. Animals can't consent, but humans can. As long as you consume human semen, it's vegan. The donkey semen the contestants drank in that one episode of fear factor is not nor could ever be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children) what about the restaurant at the end of the universe? where they breed super intelligent cows who can consent to be eaten, and want to be eaten. I get the whole breeding program is definitely non vegan, but the final cow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) That's a lot of the argument around lab grown meat which has technology discovered through nonvegan means, but that really depends on how far you want to take veganism. Would you reject most medical procedures because they were developed through nonvegan means? I wouldn't, nor do I think people should, but if we created a species that only wants to die, that seems very unethical and like we're taking away their free will. Can they really consent if they only ever want to die? I don't think so, and I wouldn't wish that existence on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago didn't realize that science fiction thought experiment was relevant to medicine. if we were to throw away all the research and knowledge we acquired through non ethical means, we would kill so many people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 point 1 week ago breed Commodification of animals speciesism, which is the root of what makes something non-vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That makes absolutely no sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumples@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) So with that logic I can make vegan cheese if I use a consenting women's breast milk. Correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Yes. In contrast to dairy milk, that would mean that you are not forcibly impregnating the mother and murdering her baby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dumples@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago That makes sense thank you permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago Everything gross in this world always seems to tie back to Joe Rogan somehow permalink fedilink source parent [–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago Consent to which part, though? Are we allowed to trick people into knowingly jizzing into jars if we never disclose that we're consuming it from the jar? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children) what about the restaurant at the end of the universe? where they breed super intelligent cows who can consent to be eaten, and want to be eaten. I get the whole breeding program is definitely non vegan, but the final cow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) That's a lot of the argument around lab grown meat which has technology discovered through nonvegan means, but that really depends on how far you want to take veganism. Would you reject most medical procedures because they were developed through nonvegan means? I wouldn't, nor do I think people should, but if we created a species that only wants to die, that seems very unethical and like we're taking away their free will. Can they really consent if they only ever want to die? I don't think so, and I wouldn't wish that existence on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago didn't realize that science fiction thought experiment was relevant to medicine. if we were to throw away all the research and knowledge we acquired through non ethical means, we would kill so many people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 point 1 week ago breed Commodification of animals speciesism, which is the root of what makes something non-vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That makes absolutely no sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) That's a lot of the argument around lab grown meat which has technology discovered through nonvegan means, but that really depends on how far you want to take veganism. Would you reject most medical procedures because they were developed through nonvegan means? I wouldn't, nor do I think people should, but if we created a species that only wants to die, that seems very unethical and like we're taking away their free will. Can they really consent if they only ever want to die? I don't think so, and I wouldn't wish that existence on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago didn't realize that science fiction thought experiment was relevant to medicine. if we were to throw away all the research and knowledge we acquired through non ethical means, we would kill so many people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago didn't realize that science fiction thought experiment was relevant to medicine. if we were to throw away all the research and knowledge we acquired through non ethical means, we would kill so many people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 point 1 week ago breed Commodification of animals speciesism, which is the root of what makes something non-vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That makes absolutely no sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumples@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) So with that logic I can make vegan cheese if I use a consenting women's breast milk. Correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Yes. In contrast to dairy milk, that would mean that you are not forcibly impregnating the mother and murdering her baby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dumples@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago That makes sense thank you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Yes. In contrast to dairy milk, that would mean that you are not forcibly impregnating the mother and murdering her baby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dumples@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago That makes sense thank you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumples@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago That makes sense thank you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago Everything gross in this world always seems to tie back to Joe Rogan somehow permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago Consent to which part, though? Are we allowed to trick people into knowingly jizzing into jars if we never disclose that we're consuming it from the jar? permalink fedilink source parent