Post by tumblr user "lizardsfromspace": "People still doing 'do you think voting can fix this' memes when the answer to the question 'when did voting last end an authoritarian regime' is 'two days ago'"
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[–] 116 points 1 week ago (27 children)

Hi from Israel. Elections were today. Preliminary results show a very strong possibility for change. It's still up in the air, but yes, voting can fix things!

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  • [–] 84 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Elections were today. Preliminary results show a very strong possibility for change.

    Which Israeli political party opposes the genocide in Palestine, again?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    The opposition is generally a lot softer on Palestine issue. Democrats (8 seats) and Arab parties (19 seats) have very good policies.

    Generally the center opposition parties have "reasonable" policies, Together (12 seats) is moderate and Yashar (21 seats) more or less "keep current status but remove some settlements and don't add new".

    The change from ethnic cleansing and genocide as a policy/talking point is a pretty major shift and governing parties are projected to get 53 seats out of 120.

    Coalition agreements are going to be pretty tough but there's hope for a centre left block with Arab parties since a lot of things that are good for Palestinians are also generally economically good policies. This is a stark contrast to working with ultra orthodox parties which cost the state a lot of issues.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Israeli politicians are either Hitler, Super Hitler, or Mega Hitler. Wild to claim the elections will fix much.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I heard that both of the frontrunning candidates are pro-genocide, so what change exactly? Is the argument "Netanyahu isn't killing Palestinians fast enough"?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    It really depends on what coalition gets formed since the leading opposition party only has 1/3 of the seats required for a majority.

    If he works with Bibi it'll be shit but he's being voted for specifically for not being Bibi. This means a centre left coalition with either ultra orthodox or Palestinians is very likely.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    It's still up in the air

    It's not. The genocide will continue nearly unabated regardless. The best case scenario on the table is it goes back to the pre-2023 status quo of a slower genocide.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (7 children)

    Now apply that logic to dems and republicans.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    The "best case scenario" is that we revert to the pre 2020 speed of our slide in to fascism. That's not better, now the water is boiling fast enough for the frogs to notice. Given the number of people utterly incapable of putting together what happened 1992-2016 that made Trump not only viable but inevitable, I'm pretty sure at the old temperature most of you would never have tried to jump out of the pot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (5 children)

    Except the democratic party isn't an ideological monolith like the republican party is. And if progressives voted for progressives in primaries they could transform the democratic party into a leftist ideological monolith but y'all don't vote. I don't know how old you are but the republicans didn't used to be full fuckin nazis. Ideological nutjobs tea partied the republicans and turned into the maga Trump party. Progressives could easily do that to the Dems but you won't vote, and now you're literally arguing the actual collapse of our country is better than voting for harm reduction. You are a privileged fucking clown. Letting the fascists win isn't a solution. I hope you're at least gonna be first in line to feel the consequences of your actions, because I will be. MAGAt traitor trash.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Except the democratic party isn't an ideological monolith like the republican party is.

    Now do it with the practical side of politics instead of rhetoric. The people controlling the levers of power in the party absolutely are an ideological monolith. They're all Wall St friendly and beholden to AIPAC and the Third Way Foundation.

    But don't take my word for it. Go get involved in your local Democratic party. The actual administrative stuff that happens between elections. When you work closely enough with the party to understand how the party actually functions, you'll understand why the Democratic Party is ultimately as much a part of the problem as the Republicans are. The point of the Democratic Party is to capture and neuter any social movements that threaten the Wall St agenda, and to give people enough faith in the system that they won't revolt.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    And there's the both sides bot.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    And there's the ShitLib with no actual rebuttal to anything I said pretending like dismissing me as subhuman is a win.

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