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[–] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If someone is beating on you, you should take the minnimal required action to make the beating stop which normally is just leaving but sometimes can including hitting or stabbing or shooting back.

But you never "get to" hit them just like you never "get to" be rescued from a burning car. It's not a privilege, it's a last resort you hope you never need and the day that you do need it is a sad, dark day.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Ultimately the issue is there's two things people are talking about:

    • Occasional situations when a man has to use self defense against a woman and is viewed as the perpetrator
    • Guys being way to excited to assault someone

    And people just talking past each other without being clear about which theyre talking about or disguising one as the other

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    There's a difference between what some people think of as self defense.

    The most obvious is to act in a way that prevents harm to one self - which would only involve violence as a last resort - but many guys seem to want to see it as "an eye for an eye", which is a very different thing.

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