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Italian fishermen stay in port over diesel costs as government rushes to grant aid (www.bairdmaritime.com)
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[–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

So the biggest worry i have is not price. Thats a super big worry. The biggest worry i have is what happens when we go to the pump and there is no more?

Its not a small probability either. What happens when the big trucks go to fill up and the pump is empty? Suddenly no more delivery because there is no fuel.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    That happened in the US in 1973 and 1979. Fuel gets rationed before it runs out. There have been more recent shortages in other countries, plenty of documentation on all of them if you'd like to find out.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    One of my Italian friends has posted a couple reels on instagram the past few days of stores that were almost totally empty. So even just the fuel prices (though in this case it’s more a strike because of fuel prices) are hurting food availability. It could get pretty dire pretty fast if fuel gets scarce rather than just expensive.

    And I don’t think those sectors can electrify that fast, but certainly faster than industrial fishing.

    Maybe return to tradition: donkeys with carts and sailboats? Wish it was more of a joke. Realistically rail for long distance and EV trucks for more local distribution probably is viable on a pretty narrow, though not immediate timeline.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Its not a matter of if. Its when. Even if somehow the world went back to pre war status. We have ate through so much of the reserves to make it seem everything is normal that I dont think we have enough supply to wait for shipping, processing, and distribution. We are in for a real disruption of diesel. And I dont know how bad its going to get. Stock up on rice and beans is all im saying.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, and it won’t solve all our problems, but I think everyone that can afford it should have some kind of solar setup, even if very minimal. For energy security, and more so just an awareness of power consumption. When you can see what you’re generating vs what you’re consuming, it’s hard to not want to optimize your power consumption.

    With that and a bicycle you can retain a lot of modern conveniences with very little energy demand. And in the event of a near societal collapse from a sudden severe fuel shortage, you can be pretty okay….as long as you can get food…

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