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Today I once again voted for the 'lesser evil'. Every 4 years I have to do that. I'm tired. (lemmy.world)
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First round of voting I actually found a candidate I really liked, someone I would actually celebrate if they won but of course the rest of the country is not looking for the best candidate, they only care about electing the worst candidate for 'the other side'.

So here I am, waiting for the results knowing that if the candidate I picked wins I won't be happy, just relieved and if the other candidate wins, I need to fear for the future of our country.

I looked for an offmychest community but couldnt find it, I read the rules and I think politics is allowed here? Though really, Im not here to discuss politics, just lament the current state of affairs.

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[–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

if the candidate I picked wins I won’t be happy, just relieved

Evolution isn't immediate: we would have to go to a few 'acceptable' outcomes if that's the only way to push the window over to better choice down the line.

People who don't get that may want to brush up on how evolution works to fix bad systems; and also understand how primates evolved from whales, or something.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    The window literally never gets pushed toward the 'better' side BECAUSE people keep voting for the lesser evil. The Democrats know that their winning strategy is just to be less bad, so they never even put up any 'good' candidates anymore. And the windows just keeps getting pushed further and further right as the republican candidates get worse and so do the Democrat ones. You all need to be willing to withhold your votes from terrible candidates, or vote third party. And yet every election, before the primaries even, there will be a horde of people screaming 'vote blue no matter who' and 'if you dont support Hilary/Joe Biden/Kamala Harris/Gavin Newsom/whatever corporate ghoul then you must be a Russian troll or a secret trump supporter!'. But this strategy has never resulted in a long term improvement for your country, just a long drawn out descent into fascism.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (8 children)

    Here in reality the Democratic candidates are getting better.

    Maybe not on your specific issue that you decide is more important than everything else, but that's true for every single issue voter.

    But this strategy has never resulted in a long term improvement for your country, just a long drawn out descent into fascism.

    Better than a short and immediate descent into fascism, which is option 2. There is no option 3.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Democratic candidates and their vote history has steadily moved right-wing, wtf are you smoking. With one or two notable exceptions who have been completely ostracized by the party. There literally is a third option. People like you who insist there isn't create a self-fulfillign prophecy. There's other names on the ballot that arent Democrats, it just takes enough people to be fed up. And yes, that probably won't ever happen in a single election cycle. But it could have started decades ago, and the longer you stupidly insist on voting blue no matter who, the more fucked you're going to get by the bought and sold Democrat party. Trump isn't the fault of third party voters, he's the fault of the Democrat establishment who have steadfastly refused to do anything fucking useful.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Don't really know what to tell you apart from you're just wrong.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/03/10/the-polarization-in-todays-congress-has-roots-that-go-back-decades/

    I'm sure your vibes are very accurate and not at all influenced by biased news sources, but the data show that Democrats have, indeed, moved left. Slowly and steadily.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (5 children)

    First of all, I haven't read that yet and don't know what policies or decisions they're basing that on, but Democrats love to talk big and then not actually do anything, so if it's just based on campaign promises and not actual voting history, then it's garbage data. But also, if you look at the numbers, even that site shows Democrats staying basically the exact same. It technically shows a negligible shift to the left, but it's basically 0. It's also +4 years old, which was a big difference in the political climate, and was before Kamala started courting republicans with her messaging. It was before the entire 2024 election season, and most democrats have moved way further right since Trump got elected again. It also states that Republicans have moved way to the right, while Democrats have stayed the same. So I'm not sure what you're basing your info on, but just a quick look at the Senate voting history shows Democrats are basically right-wing now. They've pretty much abandoned all pretense of even being centrist.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (4 children)

    didn't read article

    Spews more dumb shit directly addresses by the article

    Continues to insist that even though the article clearly shows a shift to the left, it really means Democrats are moving right because vibes

    You're not the brightest bulb on the tree, are ya?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (3 children)

    The shift to the left is negligible. You clearly have no capability for thinking for yourself or analyzing information so you rely on posting links you don't understand and personal attacks. Have a good life being a well tamed pet of the corporate Dem establishment. I'm sure there will be great things in your future, all accomplished by real well-meaning Democrat candidates.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    So you're just gonna go straight from "The democrats are becoming right wing" to "Okay fine the democrats are moving left but I don't accept their progress to the left and so that's the same as moving right"

    And I'm the idiot?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    Are you not going to acknowledge the fact that that was 4 years ago at all? Also that's based on an ideological 'average' of all party members. Common tactic in the Democrat party for decades has been to have a few very outspoken 'progressive' candidates, while the majority are much further right. And then you have the 'spoilers' like Manchin. Who consistently vote 'against' the rest of the members so the rest can look like they're really fighting the progressive fight, but they just always happen to lose by one or two votes. If you can't see the fucking pattern you are an idiot, and I'm done talking to you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Yes, I see the pattern. I just showed you the pattern. Democrats are, as a whole, slowly but surely moving to the left.

    Unless you have actual evidence that that pattern has changed in the last four years, besides 'trust me bro', I see no reason to believe it has changed.

    Now, if you were to say "I wish the Democrats would move left faster", then you would have a point. Of course with your average slightly left of Democrats voter being too lazy to get off their ass and vote, or as they say "taking a principled stand against the system [by sitting quietly at home and not bothering anybody]", it makes perfect sense why Democrats would ignore the desires of those people who don't vote. I also think there's no need to listen to the political opinions of a nonvoter.

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