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[–] 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Agreed, but only if you ignore the cost of raising livestock at scale to the environment.

That needs to get sorted first, then things like this should be examined.

And on and on until we create a more sustainable world for ourselves and our children.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    they seem to be aggressively ignoring the cost of raising livestock. i cannot accept that they genuinely cant understand it, they must be just ignoring it. very puzzling stuff.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 week ago

    i cannot accept that they genuinely cant understand it

    That is your cognitive dissonance. You can go to grasslands and hunt a ruminant, in fact many people do this... deer meat is a thing. What did it cost to raise that deer?

    Now you can put up a fence around some grassland, and let some cattle graze on it.... now the cost is a fence.

    pick the level of sustainability you like, but it is achievable

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Of course. A score against veganism doesn't automatically justify a meat-heavy diet. Especially if it's based on industrial agriculture. Actually I don't even think the conflict here is meat vs vegan diet, but industrial vs sustainable agriculture.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    raising livestock at scale to the environment.

    ruminants live on their own in the environment, they are part of the environment.

    sustainable world

    You can't have sustainable agriculture without animals, fertilizer comes from animals or fossil fuels....

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