It's also the opinion of people who don't make a habit of drinking the special koolaid.

It's the most common internet opinion, but IRL people use it without a second thought, and will get annoyed if you call them out on it.

EDIT: I don't think this post was talking about laymen to begin with.

I dunno, I see a lot of people defending Linus even on Lemmy.

Every issue I have with the tech has nothing to do with how "useful" it is.

I'd even argue it's only useful in the short term, and extremely harmful in the long term. Not just because of it's fascist origins, but because developing it further is accelerating climate change unnecessarily when we direly need to do the opposite. Climate change will rapidly undo any of the good LLMs manage to accomplish.

"LLMs are non-deterministic and often create bugs that weren't there before with no accountability, and are therefore different from compilers."

"Well, they used to do that a lot, but they hardly ever do it anymore. And besides, the bugs aren't hard to spot."

"That doesn't change what I -- whatever. LLMs cause your skills to atrophy."

"Not if you use them smartly. Like I do. I'm proud to say I haven't written a single line of code in over a year. In fact, I barely even read it anymore. But I make all the architectural decisions, and therefore, even though I haven't even verified that the code does what the LLM says it does and blindly trust the unit tests it writes to catch any bugs, I understand the code perfectly and have not lost any skill. I could stop using it tomorrow if I wanted to. But why would I, when it's so useful?"

"Datacenters burn natural gas and pollute the environment! OpenAI and Anthropic both give their technology to the military to make self guided bombs! The number of suicides directly attributable to LLM interactions is climbing by the day and none of the LLM companies care!"

"You really can't accurately speak on whether LLMs are good or bad unless you've used one in the last six months."

"..."

"They're really useful now."

No one's salary went up when we obsoleted all the people calculating stuff. Actually I'm pretty sure salaries go down when work is automated

They have to go down, it increases the supply of workers, reduces the bargaining strength of people seeking work

Most likely LLMs. Most people only warn against intellisense for initially learning coding, or if they work in academia.