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Antivax is a way for people to rationalise their fear of needles (lemmy.ml)
submitted 2 weeks ago by to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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They are just not aware that they have this fear and can't therefore understand and work on it effectively. Some people just seem to be stuck in emotional toddlerhood.

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[–] [S] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I can absolutely make this distinction. There is a gigantic qualitative difference between continuous small picks where you don't feel the injection and a jab. With a syringe you get upwards of 0.5 mL injected into your body. The syringe has a real size to it. It takes half a minute to get a vaccine and needle is in your arm for more than 3 seconds easily. The entire content of the syringe is injected at one.

My sister has a fear of needles but has tattoos; She does not fear the tattoo gun. This is the case for a lot of people. Your logic blasts past reality.

I also didn't say it was the case for every antivaxxer that they're rationalising a fear of needles. I am explaining one cause of something that knows an innumerable amount of causes.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    The qualitative difference between a needle that jabs deep and a needle that jabs shallowly is actually very small because in both cases there is a needle slipping between skin.

    I have a fear of needles; I just got my first flu vaccine this week because now Flu-mist is a thing and I still nearly had a panic attack just being around everyone getting the jab. I also have no tattoos because it involves a needle jabbing me and putting stuff in my body. “This is the case for a lot of people.” Not everyone afraid of needles is your sister. I’m not sorry if “my logic” is different than hers.

    The title of your post sounds like a pretty sweeping statement about antivaxxers. Rereading it you didn’t say that it’s the only reason, but you sure didn’t include anything to indicate that there could be more.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    The title of your post sounds like a pretty sweeping statement about antivaxxers

    It sounds that way to you.

    but you sure didn’t include anything to indicate that there could be more.

    I don't have to. This is showerthoughts.

    Not everyone afraid of needles is your sister

    But it the case for a lot of people. I can apply your argument to you. Your personal experience, or your fear, doesn't mean all that much as an argument. I couldn't also cite two other people I know who both have tattoos and fear injections. I am sorry if I offended you in any way, I do not mean to suggest that people with a fear of needles are antivax, that that is the general case at least.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    “It sounds that way to you.”

    No shit, that’s why I’m the one saying it.

    “This is showerthoughts.”

    Yah, that’s why I reread the title in light of your clarification and moved on, because you probably didn’t give your original post too much thought, just like I didn’t give too much thought to thinking you were speaking broadly in my first response.

    “But it is the case for a lot of people.”

    No shit, that’s exactly the argument I made because it’s exactly the argument you made because it’s not a good argument. If I shouldn’t be saying it, neither should you.

    I don’t know how to interpret you saying my logic “blasts past reality” as anything but offensive because it’s just an insult without anything more to it.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I said your logic blasts past reality before you reread what I said in detail. I was asking you to reconsider what I said, as it was said, and not to read anything into it inductively. I don't mean to insult you, maybe it would have helped if I said "your logic blasts past what I am saying a bit"

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