velma comments on The Average Man Is Such a BSer About AI That He’ll Claim to Know About an AI Executive Who Doesn’t Even Exist: Men caught hallucinating.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

You don’t find it understandable why people from an oppressed group might harbor ill feelings toward their oppressors?

I’m not saying agree with or find it acceptable - you can’t even wrap your head around why?

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I can comprehend it, but calling it understandable and different in the way that you did frames it as somehow less bad. The individual person is not "their oppressors". That's the part I disagree with.

I think you'd balk at someone saying that someone being racist was "understandable" because there was a black gang active where they grew up.

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[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I think misandry is less bad than misogyny, as in it does less harm because of the way our systems are set up in a patriarchal society, but that doesn't mean my belief is that misandry is good.

I think you’d balk at someone saying that someone being racist was “understandable” because there was a black gang active where they grew up.

Understandable is not the same as excusable.

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago* (3 children)

That makes sense, I think things like misandry are as harmful as things like misogyny on a case-by-case basis when removed from context, but of course misogyny is far more harmful overall, unless I'm stupid that seems to be what you're also saying.

For the understandable thing I was working with this definition:

Expected or accepted under the circumstances.

Which I would disagree with, but I think you were working off of this one:

Capable of being understood; intelligible.

Which, if you were, I agree with you.

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[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That makes sense, I think things like misandry are as harmful as things like misogyny on a case-by-case basis when removed from context, but of course misogyny is far more harmful overall, unless I’m stupid that seems to be what you’re also saying.

That's exactly what I'm saying.