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If So Many Americans Care About Climate, Why Don’t They Vote Like It? 11.2 million. That’s the number of Americans who rank climate as a their top priority but didn’t vote in the 2024 US elections (coveringclimatenow.org)
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[–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

It seems like you actually believe anyone who thought Harris was a bad candidate voted for Rump?
That's so simple

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Your inability to make the bare minimum effort necessary to stand in front of fascism seems to have also allowed you to not know or care what the outcome was-

    Since you seem to like simplicity so much,..

    How about you stop pretending any of this matters to you since you have proven via your conscience choice you made to not bother yourself with it.

    Simple as…..

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    What choice did I make?
    What minimum effort did I not do?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Voting for the candidate that does less harm to the environment.

    Maybe not you, but plenty others did. And that is why we got trump.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I think you answered my second question? I'm going to assume you did.

    Of course that's why we got Rump. He got more votes. Harris ran against a convicted felon, fraudster, and rapist. It should have been a cake walk to beat him. It was the Dems campaign to loose. She lost anyway, because she was a bad cantate, and the Dems fucked up massively. You can't blame the reff (the voters) when one team played so obviously badly.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    It's a two party system and you have three choices.

    Vote A

    Vote B

    Don't vote.

    Not voting is still an action. It means either option is fine, otherwise you would have voted for a specific candidate

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    But what if they voted for Harris, while thinking she was a terrible candidate? Did that possibly not occur to you?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Then they liked her more than the other options.

    I know we're talking about Americans, but this is a simple enough concept. Even for them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Yah I kind of thought that was simple enough that nobody would think it was what I was asking about.

    The whole idea I apparently need to directly explain is, someone can believe that she was and is a bad candidate, while also voting for her. That we can call out her terrible campaign, and how bad the Democrats are at this game; Wanting and hoping for them to be better. You can support your team, while complaining about how much they suck. Too many here seem to think any criticism of any Democrat is support for Republicans. But that kind of simplistic black and white thinking is what Republicans do. I'd want more for us.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    This has been the case since the 1990s, when does it deliver, can you show us?

    What have working class people GAINED while settling for the "lesser of two evils"?

    Where are the incremental steps to the left that you proclaim exist?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    I think you may have responded to the wrong comment.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    No I didn't. I am going against the mythi that we are going to incrementally go left. You seem to think we are and I was going against that.

    Everything else you said I agree with.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I never mentioned going left, incrementally or otherwise. We aren't and haven't been. Since Bill Clinton said "The days of big government are over" That ship sailed. Both parties embraced neoliberal economics. Or what some like to call Late Stage Capitalism, but it's more akin to a new corpo-fudalism, than capitalism.

    Democrats are still socially left. They've decided people should all equally suffer economically. While the Republicans think certain groups should suffer more. To sum up, Dems suck, but Reps are a disaster. So yah I vote for the tourniquet, while screaming for surgery.

    I do have some hope though. The Democratic Socialists seem to be making ground, and getting votes. Perhaps Rump has mad a big enough mess, fast enough for people to support actual economic progressives, that could turn this ship around. This mid term next month will be telling. In 30 years it might be seen as a turning point. I don't know.

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