▲ 339 ▼ Amazon uses AI surveillance to monitor union risk in UK warehouses // Internal documents suggest tech giant collects ‘hundreds of data points’ for ‘union-busting’ AI model (www.opendemocracy.net) submitted 3 weeks ago by Beep@feddit.online to c/technology@lemmy.world 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (10 children) Sure you can. You might have to pay a little for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) Employers start with personal data on every one of their employees. And they can do slimey shit like this, if you're building a union you need to build trust, and monitoring your members wouldn't be doing that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mHtt@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) also this isn't jut some warehouse AWS is literally the biggest data infrastructure broker in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) So what. You gotta try, even if it's not as good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Maybe the money would be better spent on pizza to get people to come to your union meetings.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Or maybe it would be better spent on Claude. I've seen that AI do its thing, fight fire with fire. Why would you fight trying pizza and AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago batman-thisistheweaponoftheenemywewillnotuseit.gif permalink fedilink source parent [–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I have helped organize a workplace and I cant think of a way AI could have aided us. My fellow organizers would occasionally ask it advice or questions about labor law. The first use case didn't produce anything overly helpful, but maybe it helped soothe their nerves. The second use case... We're not lawyers and the devil is in the details. Fortunately we had help from the organization we joined. They were extremely helpful and knowledgeable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) AI is great at sources and finding places that have done it before. Also, if you put in what Amazon is doing, there may be sources for laws that they're breaking, and ways you can legally counteract. Notice, I said sources. It can also help you organize all of the info*. AI is an amazing intern, but that's about it. Still very helpful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 weeks ago If only I could afford that RTX 9990, I’d have a union…. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) Employers start with personal data on every one of their employees. And they can do slimey shit like this, if you're building a union you need to build trust, and monitoring your members wouldn't be doing that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mHtt@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) also this isn't jut some warehouse AWS is literally the biggest data infrastructure broker in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) So what. You gotta try, even if it's not as good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Maybe the money would be better spent on pizza to get people to come to your union meetings.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Or maybe it would be better spent on Claude. I've seen that AI do its thing, fight fire with fire. Why would you fight trying pizza and AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago batman-thisistheweaponoftheenemywewillnotuseit.gif permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mHtt@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) also this isn't jut some warehouse AWS is literally the biggest data infrastructure broker in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) So what. You gotta try, even if it's not as good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Maybe the money would be better spent on pizza to get people to come to your union meetings.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Or maybe it would be better spent on Claude. I've seen that AI do its thing, fight fire with fire. Why would you fight trying pizza and AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago batman-thisistheweaponoftheenemywewillnotuseit.gif permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Maybe the money would be better spent on pizza to get people to come to your union meetings.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Or maybe it would be better spent on Claude. I've seen that AI do its thing, fight fire with fire. Why would you fight trying pizza and AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago batman-thisistheweaponoftheenemywewillnotuseit.gif permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Or maybe it would be better spent on Claude. I've seen that AI do its thing, fight fire with fire. Why would you fight trying pizza and AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago batman-thisistheweaponoftheenemywewillnotuseit.gif permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago batman-thisistheweaponoftheenemywewillnotuseit.gif permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I have helped organize a workplace and I cant think of a way AI could have aided us. My fellow organizers would occasionally ask it advice or questions about labor law. The first use case didn't produce anything overly helpful, but maybe it helped soothe their nerves. The second use case... We're not lawyers and the devil is in the details. Fortunately we had help from the organization we joined. They were extremely helpful and knowledgeable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) AI is great at sources and finding places that have done it before. Also, if you put in what Amazon is doing, there may be sources for laws that they're breaking, and ways you can legally counteract. Notice, I said sources. It can also help you organize all of the info*. AI is an amazing intern, but that's about it. Still very helpful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) AI is great at sources and finding places that have done it before. Also, if you put in what Amazon is doing, there may be sources for laws that they're breaking, and ways you can legally counteract. Notice, I said sources. It can also help you organize all of the info*. AI is an amazing intern, but that's about it. Still very helpful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 weeks ago If only I could afford that RTX 9990, I’d have a union…. permalink fedilink source parent