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[–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

We're talking about elevating one of the last states to abolish slavery and built upon genocide as one of the Shining Stars and that's garbage.

This looks like the disconnect.

I don't think the other commenter is talking about elevating the US. They are defending celebrating the US's fight for independence and it's effect on culture across the world.

I highly doubt anyone would defend the US as a whole.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    You are 99% right, I am talking about immense, world-shaking philosophical change the American Revolution brought humanity that deserves to be celebrated.

    In regards to the countries, I grade on a scale. The other fellow doggedly ignores:

    but if a nation's legacy is exclusively the sum of blood spilled, I ask you to show me one that is not utterly drenched in evil.

    I personally think no country is innocent. That can get us into a whole different rabbit hole on the nature of power, state legitimization of force, anarchism, etc., which is not the topic of this shitpost!

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