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[+] -12 points 3 weeks ago* (8 children)

I know it's early, but so far y'all just throwin' rocks. No intelligent criticism whatsoever of the content you just read (you did read it, right?) - nothing but low-effort jeers. Linus is saying he expects high quality work and doesn't accept a shotgun zero-tolerance mindset against how it's produced. What, in concrete terms, is actually wrong with that?

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  • [–] 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Some things deserve zero tolerance IMO

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  • [+] -8 points 3 weeks ago
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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (-1 children)

    No. For an easy example, does fascism deserve tolerance?

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  • [+] -8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Some things do, but work technique isn't one of them.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    What about a tool that killed someone every time you used it? Or every ten times you used it? There's a line somewhere, right?

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  • [+] -10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    I already agreed some things deserve zero tolerance, so obviously there's a line. If AI killed someone or gave the user shooting pains every ten times it was used then I would call it a failed attempt to make a tool. But the relevance of this escapes me.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    My argument is that the environmental costs of AI, not to mention the knock-on effects of the societal change it incurs, lead to people dying.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Evidence would make that an argument. Without it what you have is a hypothesis. I have a hypothesis that people die from the knock-on effects of social media, but here we are doing it without demonizing ourselves.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Exactly, the only thing that matters is results.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    No. The ethics of how something is produced are material.

    The ends don’t justify the means.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    One of my most prized possessions is a transcript of some of my late grandfather's notes. Among them, and most prized to me, is an note he wrote about the fruit of wicked trees: that the ends do not justify the means; the means and ends are both the merit of a thing, and if either is corrupt, so too is the thing.

    I keep a printout of it with me often as a memorandum.

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