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[–] Olap@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (17 children) This is so American. Just give up the damn guns! permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago Because we should totally trust the US government with our protection.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago That is a very controversial take for Americans, and not just from a gun-toter's perspective. The US has a long history of gun violence, yes, but the US also has a long history of state corruption which only ended by guns driving that corruption back. In 1946, Veterans in the town of Athens used their firearms to fight against a corrupt police department helping the standing state rig the elections. In 1921 The Battle of Blair Mountain occurred, where West Virginia miners who'd been stuck in the exploitive company town employment model, battled along the ridges of Blair Mountain against Police. In the company towns you could be fired from your job and evicted from your home without trial - since the mining company owned the houses and only let employees use them - and being in a Union was a fireable offense. This was the largest labor uprising in US history, mine workers fighting deputy sheriffs and strike breakers, with the police actually using biplanes to drop bombs overtop the heads of the miners. This was apart of the Coal Wars of the US, and apart of the broader Labor Wars in the US, which eventually led to the pro-labor regulations we now have in place within the US (which are now being dismantled despite a massive rise in peaceful protests). In 1968, the Holy Week Uprising occurred in response to Rev. Martin Luther King Junior's assassination, and fueled by the massive inequality that the black community still faced. All of these were cases of a overhead government, whether state, town, or federal, failing to provide for it citizens, and those citizens helping change that governments' behaviour through violent armed uprising. It is a regular occurrence in American history for us to have corrupt officials who start setting inhumane policies, and it's also been a regular occurrence for that corruption to need violent intervention in order for changes for the better to occur. permalink fedilink source parent [–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) and leave the violent fascists in red states and the government to have a monopoly on violence? get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago What kind of gun do you have for you to take on the government with it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm tending to side with her, but they were legally purchased and probably expensive, it would be nice if he could at least get a tax write-off or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Olap@lemmy.world -10 points 1 year ago Sometimes you gotta pick your battles. What's gonna be easier long term, giving up your guns or fighting this in the courts? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Nah, let the gun nut reflect on their idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -12 points 1 year ago (8 children) Replace guns with anything else and your comment will rightly sound very stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Olap@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children) Give up hate. Give up facism. Give up excessive consumerism All sounds fine to me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago Pipe dream but noble permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gun ownership =/= fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olap@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Agreed. But Americans love both right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -2 points 1 year ago Sigh. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago Let me try: "Just give up the crossbows!". Nah, sounds fine. "Just give up the anthrax!". Nope, totally ok with that. "Just give up the punji stick pittraps". Still feeling ok. I don't think it sounds stupid at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Denjin@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago This is so American. Just give up the damn child pornography! This is so American. Just give up the damn heroin! This is so American. Just give up the damn National Socialism! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago Make me. Oh wait. You can't🤣 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago Because we should totally trust the US government with our protection.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago That is a very controversial take for Americans, and not just from a gun-toter's perspective. The US has a long history of gun violence, yes, but the US also has a long history of state corruption which only ended by guns driving that corruption back. In 1946, Veterans in the town of Athens used their firearms to fight against a corrupt police department helping the standing state rig the elections. In 1921 The Battle of Blair Mountain occurred, where West Virginia miners who'd been stuck in the exploitive company town employment model, battled along the ridges of Blair Mountain against Police. In the company towns you could be fired from your job and evicted from your home without trial - since the mining company owned the houses and only let employees use them - and being in a Union was a fireable offense. This was the largest labor uprising in US history, mine workers fighting deputy sheriffs and strike breakers, with the police actually using biplanes to drop bombs overtop the heads of the miners. This was apart of the Coal Wars of the US, and apart of the broader Labor Wars in the US, which eventually led to the pro-labor regulations we now have in place within the US (which are now being dismantled despite a massive rise in peaceful protests). In 1968, the Holy Week Uprising occurred in response to Rev. Martin Luther King Junior's assassination, and fueled by the massive inequality that the black community still faced. All of these were cases of a overhead government, whether state, town, or federal, failing to provide for it citizens, and those citizens helping change that governments' behaviour through violent armed uprising. It is a regular occurrence in American history for us to have corrupt officials who start setting inhumane policies, and it's also been a regular occurrence for that corruption to need violent intervention in order for changes for the better to occur. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) and leave the violent fascists in red states and the government to have a monopoly on violence? get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago What kind of gun do you have for you to take on the government with it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago What kind of gun do you have for you to take on the government with it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm tending to side with her, but they were legally purchased and probably expensive, it would be nice if he could at least get a tax write-off or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Olap@lemmy.world -10 points 1 year ago Sometimes you gotta pick your battles. What's gonna be easier long term, giving up your guns or fighting this in the courts? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Nah, let the gun nut reflect on their idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Olap@lemmy.world -10 points 1 year ago Sometimes you gotta pick your battles. What's gonna be easier long term, giving up your guns or fighting this in the courts? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Nah, let the gun nut reflect on their idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -12 points 1 year ago (8 children) Replace guns with anything else and your comment will rightly sound very stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Olap@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children) Give up hate. Give up facism. Give up excessive consumerism All sounds fine to me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago Pipe dream but noble permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gun ownership =/= fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olap@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Agreed. But Americans love both right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -2 points 1 year ago Sigh. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago Let me try: "Just give up the crossbows!". Nah, sounds fine. "Just give up the anthrax!". Nope, totally ok with that. "Just give up the punji stick pittraps". Still feeling ok. I don't think it sounds stupid at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Denjin@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago This is so American. Just give up the damn child pornography! This is so American. Just give up the damn heroin! This is so American. Just give up the damn National Socialism! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Olap@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children) Give up hate. Give up facism. Give up excessive consumerism All sounds fine to me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago Pipe dream but noble permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gun ownership =/= fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olap@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Agreed. But Americans love both right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -2 points 1 year ago Sigh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago Pipe dream but noble permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gun ownership =/= fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olap@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Agreed. But Americans love both right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Olap@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Agreed. But Americans love both right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago Let me try: "Just give up the crossbows!". Nah, sounds fine. "Just give up the anthrax!". Nope, totally ok with that. "Just give up the punji stick pittraps". Still feeling ok. I don't think it sounds stupid at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago This is so American. Just give up the damn child pornography! This is so American. Just give up the damn heroin! This is so American. Just give up the damn National Socialism! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago Make me. Oh wait. You can't🤣 permalink fedilink source parent