▲ 590 ▼ Zelenskyy Says Ukraine Is Done Holding Back on Russian Oil Refineries (united24media.com) submitted 3 weeks ago by CityPop@lemmy.today to c/world 92 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 102 points 3 weeks ago (25 children) buy russian oil dare others to bomb that just bought, undelivered oil, by insulting or cutting starlinks and such your own oil is gone and local prices skyrocket. Genius 🍿 permalink fedilink source hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago (11 children) How long until Trump declares war on Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 30 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) This would cause enough civil unrest to justify canceling the midterm election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I think Yemen is top of his list right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago His onwner already did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) the chaos is the point. who benefits most from chaos? the rich and powerful. you don't sell your daughter into slavery unless things are real, real bad. so things have to get real, real bad. don't fight the last war permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) Could agree, if that chaos would be made by anyone smart. Half smart riches could benefit from chaos, from war, claiming they did invest in war industry already (ok, murica did lot of that). Unless, real smarts know, they need to feed the cow fair amount to let the cow give more milk. Too poor society won't let riches beat other riches. Yet another rich will know, they will be real rich on rich streets without poor tents in parks all around - they will be reach in rich society (even if they make that society little rich too). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago Martin was right about chaos being a ladder permalink fedilink source parent [–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) 3- Dum(b) chess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* 3Ds chess was what that lady in Total Recall was a master at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) if that fuel wouldn't actually make a dent in retail prices in the u.s (it wouldn't. at all. what the u.s. is 'buying' is less than one day's consumption)... then not having that fuel should also not have any effect on retail prices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) gas prices are based on feelings, not reality. If the tiny drop of oil doesn't make it, people will have bad feelings and that makes gas prices go up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) He really is the best at destruction. The one thing no one can beat him at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Honestly doubt. He can destroy lot only because have good spot, made by others potuses before. Whole world even. But real art (of evil, of any) is to do lot by starting from nowhere. He cannot be good even on being bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago (11 children) How long until Trump declares war on Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 30 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) This would cause enough civil unrest to justify canceling the midterm election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I think Yemen is top of his list right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago His onwner already did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 30 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) This would cause enough civil unrest to justify canceling the midterm election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago If only permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago If only permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I think Yemen is top of his list right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago His onwner already did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) the chaos is the point. who benefits most from chaos? the rich and powerful. you don't sell your daughter into slavery unless things are real, real bad. so things have to get real, real bad. don't fight the last war permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) Could agree, if that chaos would be made by anyone smart. Half smart riches could benefit from chaos, from war, claiming they did invest in war industry already (ok, murica did lot of that). Unless, real smarts know, they need to feed the cow fair amount to let the cow give more milk. Too poor society won't let riches beat other riches. Yet another rich will know, they will be real rich on rich streets without poor tents in parks all around - they will be reach in rich society (even if they make that society little rich too). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago Martin was right about chaos being a ladder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) Could agree, if that chaos would be made by anyone smart. Half smart riches could benefit from chaos, from war, claiming they did invest in war industry already (ok, murica did lot of that). Unless, real smarts know, they need to feed the cow fair amount to let the cow give more milk. Too poor society won't let riches beat other riches. Yet another rich will know, they will be real rich on rich streets without poor tents in parks all around - they will be reach in rich society (even if they make that society little rich too). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago Martin was right about chaos being a ladder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) 3- Dum(b) chess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* 3Ds chess was what that lady in Total Recall was a master at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* 3Ds chess was what that lady in Total Recall was a master at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) if that fuel wouldn't actually make a dent in retail prices in the u.s (it wouldn't. at all. what the u.s. is 'buying' is less than one day's consumption)... then not having that fuel should also not have any effect on retail prices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) gas prices are based on feelings, not reality. If the tiny drop of oil doesn't make it, people will have bad feelings and that makes gas prices go up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) gas prices are based on feelings, not reality. If the tiny drop of oil doesn't make it, people will have bad feelings and that makes gas prices go up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) He really is the best at destruction. The one thing no one can beat him at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Honestly doubt. He can destroy lot only because have good spot, made by others potuses before. Whole world even. But real art (of evil, of any) is to do lot by starting from nowhere. He cannot be good even on being bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Honestly doubt. He can destroy lot only because have good spot, made by others potuses before. Whole world even. But real art (of evil, of any) is to do lot by starting from nowhere. He cannot be good even on being bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent