▲ -4 ▼ [Video] More than 50 Zohran Mamdani-backed Zionists commit a Pogrom against village of Almughayyir (peertube.wtf) submitted 4 weeks ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/palestine@lemmy.ml 9 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago (5 children) Fair enough. Zionists, not just "Jews," though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bhyoram@todon.eu 1 point 4 weeks ago (4 children) @yuki_gassen @Bane_Killgrind Supporting Zionists (which mamdani does) is the opposite of supporting Jews. Zionism put Jews in danger and present their existence in their countries as not legitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bhyoram@todon.eu 1 point 4 weeks ago (4 children) @yuki_gassen @Bane_Killgrind Supporting Zionists (which mamdani does) is the opposite of supporting Jews. Zionism put Jews in danger and present their existence in their countries as not legitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 weeks ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent