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[–] 9 points 1 month ago* (18 children)

Why does it suggest liberals are scared of this? Aren't they okay with Projects for affordable housing? So liberals aren't communists? Then, why are the red hat clowns so grumpy?

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  • [+] -14 points 1 month ago (15 children)
  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    We have a very simple purity test, don't support genocide or wars on the global south and we have no issue with you. If you can't agree on that much then there's no reason why we should accommodate you.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I don't either but I'm not going to aid fascists by out casting moderates. You can do that and reap what you sow.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Okay, so a person says

    We have a very simple purity test, don't support genocide or wars on the global south and we have no issue with you.

    and then, in the course of responding to them, you write,

    I'm not going to aid fascists by out casting moderates. You can do that and reap what you sow.

    What moderates are being outcast by the proposed purity test? Is supporting half of the genocide moderate enough to be included? Is supporting half of the proxy wars moderate enough to be included? Which people, holding pro-genocide attitudes, do you think we should be trying to include, to beat the fascists?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    In order; Palestine(genocide commited by your countries), Ukraine(Not a genocide, false myth by Banderite fascists), Uyghurs(Not a genocide, false myth by Zenz, a German who has never put one foot in Xinjiang), Darfur(Genocide backed by NATO and friends)

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You do support the right of liberals to be moderate over my right to be alive and my country to not be invaded, based on your own words. You also don't even know how to spell Uyghur, nor anything else on the matter.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    If people are okay with, say, me and my family being genocided just because of where we were born, why should I care whether they identify as moderate or whatever else? Again, don't agree with genocide and wars on our countries and you're welcome. It's not that much to ask lmao.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Liberals are conservatives, they are capitalist authoritarians, you understand that right?

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  • [+] -19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Liberals are center right to center left depending on the degree. Liberals are not conservatives. You are confusing left and right, which is more defined. Liberals are not routinely labeled as authoritarian. Authoritarianism can happen in any political direction but routinely not associated which current western liberalism.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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    It is not. Not is the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_in_the_United_States

    The term varies by location. Left and right is usually more standardized. Also liberals by any definition are usually not regarded as authoritarian. Full stop.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    are usually not regarded as authoritarian

    Despite two of the primary liberal countries, the US and UK, genociding entire continents.

    The liberal political system of bourgeios "democracy" is a much more effective system at genocide than even fascist governments.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    This keeps coming up in different threads - I hope you'll receive the following as useful, and not combative. I occasionally get to feeling grumpy and dunky but this isn't a long subtle road toward that.

    You have a somewhat unique and actually beautiful opportunity here ("here" meaning Lemmy in general, and this specific thread) - one that is hard to find elsewhere, at any rate.

    There are well-educated people (obvs not everyone) with very different learned and lived POVs from yours, here. And there is an asymmetry that you're either missing or denying. These folks who you think you might need to educate about western / US flavored liberalism? They have heard what you're saying, considered those ideas in a broader context than you have, and rejected those interpretations. It isn't some missed knowledge you're sharing like you imagine, or some correction you're making to someone else's limited understanding.

    You're missing this, and I really want you to not, for your benefit first, but for all of us - it truly is you, in this case, who has much to learn and little to teach.

    Don't shut that personal growth out by being defensive, it doesn't lead anywhere. It leads to intellectual death, the ending of internal development, a death sadder than the final one. There's much to learn and you have a truly golden opportunity to do so, here.

    Start with just asking yourself "what if I'm wrong? I'm probably not, that's the most likely outcome, but what if? What brain doors open when I try to find out?"

    [Edit: to put a finer point on this attempt, I can remember enough of how I used to be "you", hence the unremarked assumptions about you I made throughout. If being "correct" matters, it simply can't be done with only the info you're allowing in at the moment. Best wishes.]

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Why does it suggest liberals are scared of this?

    Because OP wants to straw-man for clout.

    Aren’t they okay with Projects for affordable housing?

    Yes, an overwhelming majority of liberals are in favor of that.

    So liberals aren’t communists?

    No. Also I'm not sure why you're asking this question.

    Then, why are the red hat clowns so grumpy?

    I'm also not sure why you're asking this, but:

    Red hats will get grumpy about virtually anything because it helps motivate their perpetually angry and afraid base; one of the defining segments of the deeply conservative mindset is that potent mix of fear and anger.

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