I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because "I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it" which is ridiculous. This isn't the first time that's happened on Lemmy. What's up with that?

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[–] 2 points 1 month ago (14 children)

it was a group effort, but the US didn't win it; the soviets did.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (13 children)

    it was a group effort

    A statement completely negated by

    but the US didn't win it; the soviets did.

    Also, I never said or even implied that the US "won the war" because anyone with half a brain knows that the allies (USSR included) won the war.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Lend lease was fuck all. The CIA admitted the Soviets would have beaten Germany without it, albeit, slower.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    What source do those graphs come from?

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    as i said elsewhere, it's only contradictory if you assume "group effort" means equal contribution, which is the whole point being contested.

    it's also why you got shouted down for trying to uplift the US's participation beyond what it actually was.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    it's also why you got shouted down for trying to uplift the US's participation beyond what it actually was.

    Which I never did no matter how much you want to think I have.

    I said "group effort" meaning the allied powers all over the world. I did not say "the US showed up, kicked all the Nazi ass, and won the war" which you seem to think I'm saying.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    i don't want to put words in your mouth and i do wish that your comments didn't get deleted so i could actually assess this.

    from the way i read the aftermath, someone said that the US hasn't won a war since wwii, someone else said that it was the USSR who won it, then you showed up to say it was a group effort (tho i can't actually read what you said, inferring it from this post.) in that context it read like minimizing, which is what i saw from the people responding.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    So you admit you only saw one side of the argument and made assumptions about me? I didn't expect that.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    why would you not expect me to be honest?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Because you came in to defend the people I originally had the argument with who called me a Nazi for the grievous sin of calling a world war a group effort.

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