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The mood's changed. The Greens and Liberals aren't chasing the sensible centre (www.abc.net.au)
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Fast-forward 17 months and the Liberal Party and Greens both have new leaders and both have dispensed with their respective party's flirtation with being constructive.

Not only do both leaders appear to be doubling down on the respective strategies that took their parties to an electoral hiding in 2025, but they are now adding extra sauce to the mix.

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[–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

"Again" people are responsible for their own choices

Social media deliberately tells people otherwise, and even pats them on the back for pretending to care, while continuing to be the problem. The dodgy politicians, and dodgy corporations could not care less about being blamed for everything bad... while the people are still voting for them, and still funding them.

and yeah... heaps of people are definitely consumerist trash, tons of Australians are too lazy to even recycle the copious amounts of complete shit they buy, let alone make better choices in the first place.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    You're blaming the ones at the bottom of the pyramid. I agree we have choices and are responsible for them but in differing degrees.

    Not everyone is born with the same level of intelligence or opportunity to develop it and so are more or less susceptible to be 'brain stained' by a rapacious system that is mining all of us and mostly turning us against each other and against ourselves . The wealthy are also brain stained. How many could could look at themselves in the mirror if they suddenly lost all their privilege? Their consumerism and the rubbish and pollution they generate are so much worse. Just like wealthy countries compared to poor ones. For what? For artifice.

    Respect for life has lost its meaning amongst many of those who have the means to help solve the problems we face. Those that want to serve them have no respect for life either. They just want to emulate what they see as having a better superficial, artificial, consumer life and a bit of power. When will they realise that those they serve see them as 'the great unwashed' and as dispensable if the crunch comes.

    And you don't think this society is nihilistic?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    You're suggesting that the majority of people are stupid

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Am I suggesting this or is that the way you want to read what I've written? Do you think the majority of people are stupid? You make out that so many are consumerist trash, and so on.

    I do think you've been stringing me along. No more responses from me. Bye bye for now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    "Not everyone is born with the same level of intelligence or opportunity to develop it"

    "Do you think the majority of people are stupid?"

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Eremophila (btw, I have a few in my garden - love them) read the sentence again. After this post, I am not continuing with the dance.

    I do not say "everyone is born with a low level of intelligence and also don't take the opportunity to develop it">

    But perhaps I wasn't clear. I hope this is clearer: We are all born with different levels of intelligence and with different life circumstances in which to develop our intelligence (and other gifts).

    In addition we are all subject to powerful continuous narratives which make us see and act in the world in certain ways as individuals and as members of groups, societies, etc. For various reasons, some of us get to take a step back and see the world under the veneer of the narrative. Is that clearer?

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