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What's the best way to organize? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 1 month ago by JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I'm looking for specific suggestions of what I can do to find a group that I can join for the purpose of building a real revolution inside the USA. I'm trying and finding it very difficult. The closest was PSL but honestly my local branch seems kind of limp. That and I'm not academically inclined enough to get through Capital.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

But it you want your movement to grow you should actually try to be helpful. Telling someone to go organize elsewhere (aka fuck off) because he expressed a difficulty with an objectively difficult book belies an ingrained sense of usamerican rugged individualism. The entire fucking point of leaving the capitalist system is because it's impersonal and keeps people down. You should be trying to lift people up instead. Otherwise you're just creating another oppressive system.

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[–] TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

Idk what to tell you man. You have comparatively infinite access to the proven pathway to lift yourself up but you said you don’t want to.

It’s okay, just go do something else. I said over and over again I’m not judging you or ridiculing you.

Also the reason for the struggle to escape the capitalist mode of production is because it incentivizes uneven development and totalizing economic conflict between everyone, not because it is impersonal or keeps people down.

The above is not an invitation to discuss theory or history, which I will not do, but an example of how you have some severe misunderstandings that should be corrected. That’s why you need to do the homework.

Or you could just accept a misunderstanding of communism, decide it’s not for you and you don’t need to learn any more and go join a different kind of group. That’s okay. You don’t have to be a communist. You don’t have to understand everything.

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[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

Still putting words in my mouth. Still advocating for a usamerican approach to self betterment. Just because I don't use jargon doesn't mean what I'm saying isn't true. Keeps people down + nuance = incentivizes unequal development. Same formula applies to the other half of our respective statements. At some point you need to get your head out of the textbook and actually start applying it. That's the only way you're going to have any opportunity to connect with people. If you continue with the mindset you seem to have, you're never going to accomplish anything of significance.

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[–] TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

The method of learning I’m pointing you at is the one used by every successful revolutionary communist movement, the majority of which took place in the nonwestern, nonwhite world. You are betraying a deep lack of understanding when you refer to it as a “usamerican approach to self betterment”.

It is not jargon to employ accurate, broadly understood language when describing things. You are behaving in a way that will drive communist groups away from you when you say stuff like that.

It is okay if you don’t want to do the homework. You can just do something else. If you would prefer not to change then you don’t need to and can just not organize with communists. It’s not a big deal.

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