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Capitalism is not Left (quokk.au)
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[–] 11 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Actual leftists would also recognize the reality of the system and acknowledge that Dems are considerably less destructive than Republicans and so would advocate voting for Dems as a method of harm reduction while working to reform the system. You're not doing that.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (16 children)

    Actual leftists would recognize that voting for the child-killers that support the Republicans and help them build out their projects aren't actually harm-reduction in the long run. The Democrats are simply a tool to keep leftists satisfied with worthless demonstrations and political posturing, without actually opposing the Republicans.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    Fuck off accelerationist. Propose an actually realistic option that doesn't give republicans power. I'll wait.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    I like how libs always have to tell me what it is that I believe, instead of engaging with the things that I say.

    The obvious is to vote 3rd party. But mostly realize that voting is one of the least effective methods that we have. Rebellion, sharing information, protesting, mutual aide, joining and building unions, etc.

    I also like how your criteria is "...doesn’t give republicans power", something that the Democrats do all the time.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    A third party vote is in very nearly every district in the US a spoiler vote because third parties are fundamentally unviable in very nearly every district in the US. If you're politically informed and engaged you'd already know about the incredibly well documented spoiler effect. But you're not engaging in good faith in the first place are ya?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    A third party vote is in very nearly every district in the US a spoiler vote because third parties are fundamentally unviable in very nearly every district in the US.

    That assumes that every third party vote is going to the candidate you want, which is clearly not true.

    If you’re politically informed and engaged you’d already know about the incredibly well documented spoiler effect.

    And if you're politically informed, you know that the Democrats would rather let the Republicans win, then let leftists have a chance. They spend more time punching left, than they do fighting Republicans.

    But you’re not engaging in good faith in the first place are ya?

    The person who told me what my beliefs are, ignores the points I've made, and has hypocritical standards is accusing me of not engaging in good faith?

    Classic lib

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    The troll farms and bots have been in full force as of late.

    The both sides are the same propaganda and obsession with labels about "true leftists" has been pretty obvious. You also get like 4 or 5 replies if you point this out even on a post with zero comments and little upvotes.

    Its to discourage voting at the end of the day and we should be wary of instances where that seems to be the main type of posts like lemmy.ML

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Its to discourage voting at the end of the day....

    Well, sorta. It's to discourage voting for the people who bombed kids, supported rapists, supported ICE, increased funding to the US military, funded torture and kidnapping programs, etc. Luckily there are other options than those.

    It's also meant to discourage people from only voting, and then going back to brunch as soon as the "Good child-bombers" get elected.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    How does not voting help with that? Who are you suggesting to vote for?

    Bet you won't give a direct answer to this just like your response didn't answer anything either but I'm still gonna call it out lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Who said anything about not voting? I certainly didn't.

    I'd suggest you vote 3rd party.

    Bet you won’t give a direct answer to this just like your response didn’t answer anything either but I’m still gonna call it out lol

    Can you point to a single instance where this is true?

    Libs accusing me of the things that they do: Episode 2394

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You know I was going to add in that you'll probably say third party and I recently responded to another user on here with the following:

    "Only an actual idiot would vote third party with how so yes, you even mentioning them tells me you're an idiot/bot/foreign troll. Everyone knows this."

    We all know that's not how the system is designed and only risks Republicans winning but you probably already know this too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Ah, yes, the people who say that they don't want genocide, but continue to vote for more genocide are calling me an idiot. What a harsh insult from such intellectual titans.

    The Democrats knew that risk, but keep chosing to run terrible candidates, with terrible policies, instead of popular candidates, with popular policies. But something tells me that I won't hear you blaming them for that. You'll still be here blaming me, even though a lot of us were warning them that their actions would help Trump win.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    votes for Republicans is what gives them power

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